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Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> A programming language simpler than C++.. That made me chuckle because both are quite the behemoths, as I have previously said. If they promised this, it was a lie indeed.

I haven't dabbled in rust since 2018, but if rust has managed to be as complicated as C++ while being a fraction of the age then I would think that would be some kind of macabre achievement in its own right.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> A programming language simpler than C++.. That made me chuckle because both are quite the behemoths, as I have previously said. If they promised this, it was a lie indeed.

I have to disagree. Rust is not even close to behemothness of C++.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> non-political community "Non-political community" is an oxymoron, like "non-aquatic lake". Politics is the verb that communities do.

> "Non-political community" is an oxymoron No it's not. I'm an LGBT person with a trans partner and I find many codes of conduct to be chastising and purposefully finger pointing to conservative people. A lot of them are basically, "your religious teachings or cultural upbringing aren't welcome here" I don't agree with religious texts, but that's what you're wagging in their face with some of the CoCs. Leave it at "d…

> You can (and often must) work with people you don't agree with.

Life's for too short to force people to do this, and ideally we should make it as feasible as possible for as many people as possible to never have to do this.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> A programming language simpler than C++.. That made me chuckle because both are quite the behemoths, as I have previously said. If they promised this, it was a lie indeed.

I have to disagree. Rust is not even close to behemothness of C++.

Perhaps, but it is definitely not a C replacement, but a replacement of C++.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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It's interesting to note that this doesn't actually discuss any funding details. Who, how much, when, how? The devil is always in the details.

If you go to the main page and scroll down a bit, you will see the big names having their logos hosted there...

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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> "Non-political community" is an oxymoron No it's not. I'm an LGBT person with a trans partner and I find many codes of conduct to be chastising and purposefully finger pointing to conservative people. A lot of them are basically, "your religious teachings or cultural upbringing aren't welcome here" I don't agree with religious texts, but that's what you're wagging in their face with some of the CoCs. Leave it at "d…

> You can (and often must) work with people you don't agree with. Life's for too short to force people to do this, and ideally we should make it as feasible as possible for as many people as possible to never have to do this.

This is a crazy notion. If I have to like everybody to work with them, we can't have a civilization because I don't like most people.

I like some people. Everybody else I work with if they're willing to work with me. Saying that we all have to agree with each other is basically giving up on the political project entirely, and going back to strongman rulers who organize by demanding conformity. Very relevant in these times.

> we should make it as feasible as possible for as many people as possible to never have to do this.

No, we should make it impossible to avoid so people can't sneak into adulthood without being properly socialized.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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I don't agree with some points, but I share the feeling in terms of "failed promises". The fact that most well-known Rust crates are becoming huge bloat are becoming a problem to me, which is something that has been critized years again by the community itself. As an example, I still do not understand why simple HTTP crates require more than 50 to 70 dependencies to execute a simple GET call...

I think it's clear to me that Rust needs to start admitting more into the STD to help with this and increase the consistency across the ecosystem.

No, I think the idea of blessing a set of crates (with versions!) is better. The stdlib has a high burden of maintenance, and ideally should only be added to if changes are always backwards compatible. A blessed set is more flexible but still provides a high degree of reliability, unlike the present situation.

Re: The Rust Foundation Maintainers Fund

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I have to disagree. Rust is not even close to behemothness of C++.

Perhaps, but it is definitely not a C replacement, but a replacement of C++.

I think Rust primarily being a C++ replacement has been acknowledged ever since it was considered for use in Firefox.
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