As cool as this is there won't be an European alternative as long as all the apps you'd want to use on a smartphone require either Google Play or the Apple App store.
SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes
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#22They're about to make a new phone: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882
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#23As cool as this is there won't be an European alternative as long as all the apps you'd want to use on a smartphone require either Google Play or the Apple App store.
Huawei just created new OS and removed all traces of Android and Linux. Just like that. If there is will, it is possible.
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#24As cool as this is there won't be an European alternative as long as all the apps you'd want to use on a smartphone require either Google Play or the Apple App store.
Huawei just created new OS and removed all traces of Android and Linux. Just like that. If there is will, it is possible.
Europe has none of the 3.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huawei just created new OS and removed all traces of Android and Linux. Just like that. If there is will, it is possible.
No, the phone variant of HarmonyOS runs on top of a Linux kernel.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huawei just created new OS and removed all traces of Android and Linux. Just like that. If there is will, it is possible.
No, the phone variant of HarmonyOS runs on top of a Linux kernel.
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#28My impression was that this platform was only becoming less and less viable. Other problems: it's proprietary and only really runs well on any phone you've ever heard of if it's on top of an Android kernel with some kind of hardware abstraction layer.
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#29The deghoulgled cellphone sphere (us) is pretty depressing if affordability is a factor.
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#30SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…
Funny. This is the opposite of what https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/ states :D And there's a lot going on with Proton and the Steam Deck, so I don't think this is a valid argument.
A lot of known issues can be avoided with more experience and cooperation before changes happen.
Before anybody mentions Proton. Because always somebody mentions Proton?
Proton is WINE. But maintained by Valve. Which requires a lot resources of Valve (not of the users). But the key is Steam! Valve is controlling the Steam store.
It is still bad and Valve shall press hard on native ports (e.g. Linux only Steam Awards). Reducing the long term workload for Valve. WINE is not a solution and remains a workaround. That is why we use Inkscape and not Adobe.
PS: Remember when Apple dropped iOS 32-Bit? And PPC? And the classic APIs? Microsoft is trying to remain bug compatible. The problem? They’re bug compatible! My thinking is similar to Torvalds, Linux, GNU (GLIBC/GLIBC++, Systemd and Wayland shall strive for compatibility when possible. Users love compatibility. Programmers love compatibility. But it is hard work. It becomes difficult when security implications are involved. As long only re-compilation is need for compatibility I’m fine. When we need to adapt code I’m getting unhappy.