I don't get it, is he complaining about the Android OS or the UI skins that manufacturers choose to install on their devices? Does this mean that if I apply a custom theme to my Windows7 install it is no longer "true" Windows7? Older phones not getting Jelly Bean is a silly complaint at this point, can't we get past this? I just really don't get these type of articles, I can only assume they are link bait since they…
Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
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Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The problem is that "customized" Androids are hard to upgrade. Why are they so hard to upgrade?
Because after 6 months the supplier forgets they soled you the phone and doesn't release any more updates. You might be able to update by rooting the phone, but most people can't get bothered. I've been once burned by HTC (Wildfire). One update after 3 months and that was it. Still runs Android 2.x. with countless major bugs, like 'when you click on one SMS message, it opens a completely different one'. Is Samsung be…
Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's also not just about the skin being bad, it's about quickly getting updates. That's the bigger problem IMO. Both the phone manufacturer and the carriers seem to hold up updates, sometimes indefinitely. More important than getting TouchWiz/Blur/Whatever off the phone is getting the latest Android bits on the phone. If the manufacturers pushed their skin updates as quickly as Google can push release-ready Android u…
I understand this frustration as a developer, but users don't seem to care, or else Nexus would be selling like hot-cakes. More to the point, as Android slows release cycles and focuses on things like "Project Butter", having the absolute latest becomes less important. I mean, you're right and I do NOT want to be making excuses for the version fragmentation out there when Apple does such a better job with updates (gr…
Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#24I don't get it, is he complaining about the Android OS or the UI skins that manufacturers choose to install on their devices? Does this mean that if I apply a custom theme to my Windows7 install it is no longer "true" Windows7? Older phones not getting Jelly Bean is a silly complaint at this point, can't we get past this? I just really don't get these type of articles, I can only assume they are link bait since they…
Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because after 6 months the supplier forgets they soled you the phone and doesn't release any more updates. You might be able to update by rooting the phone, but most people can't get bothered. I've been once burned by HTC (Wildfire). One update after 3 months and that was it. Still runs Android 2.x. with countless major bugs, like 'when you click on one SMS message, it opens a completely different one'. Is Samsung be…
Unfortunately, I don't see Samsung as much better. I was burned while holding a Galaxy S (Maxed out at 2.3.5) and Galaxy S2 (Maxed out at 2.3.5[US version]). As far as I know that is the end of the road for the S2.
Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#26The author seems to be stuck in 2011 when device UIs were rough, behind the curve, and the promise of a pure Android device would save the platform. The "second rate" Galaxy S3 is now massively outselling the Nexus and is the only Android device to outsell iPhones last summer.
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#27Yes, the iPhone is massively successful, but there's billions of people in the world who will never own one, and that's the market that Android is capturing so well. And to do that, they don't need to be perfect.
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#282) You cannot force your definitions of Android on people to get them to buy "the one true Android". People buy what they like. They like the S3 better than the Nexus. Talk about different priorities. S3 is starting to get the Jelly Bean update too.
3) There is something called emphasis in good designs. Android was designed to let people have choice. It was designed such that Samsung can ship TouchWiz and users can effortlessly install $ANOTHER_LAUNCHER to get the experience they want on the same phone.
4) Developers have dealt with complexity arising from diverse devices before. It is not a big deal. If you are crying about testing effort you aren't doing it right. If you care about reaching to 50% and growing number of Android users you are just going to have to do it right and invest in testing your app on most phones by releasing timed betas or buying your own dozen of phones. Remember it's been done before, done right and done by god knows how many developers that have good apps in the Play Store.
5) You can't crib about higher maintenance costs if you buy a big house. You similarly can't crib about differences in Android skins if you bought into a diverse ecosystem. Good news is you have a choice - care about purity, updates etc. - get the Nexus. Care about bleeding edge hardware, 2GB RAM, quad core CPU - get the S3. Care about iPhone-esque build quality - there is One X. As long as there is something I like there is no problem. If I don't like something in iPhone land - I have no recourse. That's their emphasis in design - less choice.
Android is working as designed - sure there are those upgrade issues that can be made better - but for the most part it is not the normal users who are complaining. As long as they can get things done with their Gingerbread phone they are happy. The next one down the line will get them a Jelly Bean phone that can still run the stuff they bought.
Re: Saving Android From a Second-Rate Future
#29I don't get it, is he complaining about the Android OS or the UI skins that manufacturers choose to install on their devices? Does this mean that if I apply a custom theme to my Windows7 install it is no longer "true" Windows7? Older phones not getting Jelly Bean is a silly complaint at this point, can't we get past this? I just really don't get these type of articles, I can only assume they are link bait since they…
Not when older iPhones get the latest iOS release as soon as it's available.
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#30The article contains a common error: "Every iPhone comes with iOS exactly as Steve Jobs intended, which means developers know precisely what they’re getting." On Android, that's not the problem. All Androids, as uglified by OEM add-ons as they might be, are highly compatible with applications. All Androids running the same API level of Android, even the Kindle Fire, run all the applications that use those APIs. There…
>The problem is that "customized" Androids are hard to upgrade. Why are they so hard to upgrade?