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Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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post #7

I’d like to tinker with that font, it burns my eyes to try and read the words styled like that, maybe that’s the intent?

i am fascinated with that effect and turned off every CSS rule on the page I could find but did not identify how you make that effect

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

#22
I used to resonate with the word "taste" as a distinguishing factor between good and bad quality, but a comment on HN some months ago about one of the many blog posts that talks about taste really nailed it:

"Taste" is just the degree to which two people value the same things.

When someone is rated as having "good taste" it just means that the person rating them values a lot of the same qualities.

The more I thought about it, the more that applies everywhere: Food, wine, clothes, architecture, software design, etc.

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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I used to resonate with the word "taste" as a distinguishing factor between good and bad quality, but a comment on HN some months ago about one of the many blog posts that talks about taste really nailed it: "Taste" is just the degree to which two people value the same things. When someone is rated as having "good taste" it just means that the person rating them values a lot of the same qualities. The more I thought…

I understood “taste” here to mean opinions. It’s not “good taste” it’s just “some taste”. IMO there are many ways to express taste that are not tinkering, such as preferentially selecting things and my personal favourite, complaining :) Nevertheless I think he means opinions rather than some universally good taste.

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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post #21
post #7

I’d like to tinker with that font, it burns my eyes to try and read the words styled like that, maybe that’s the intent?

i am fascinated with that effect and turned off every CSS rule on the page I could find but did not identify how you make that effect

    body::after {
    content: "";
    position: fixed;
    top: 0;
    left: 0;
    width: 100%;
    height: 100%;
    background-image: linear-gradient(rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4) 1px, transparent 1px);
    background-size: 2px 2px;
    background-repeat: repeat;
    ...

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

#26

What exactly does "taste" mean in this context? Taste is about artistic quality. Aesthetics is generally a tertiary concern when it comes to software or hardware tinkering. That assumes it's a concern at all. And while I'm talking about artistic quality on HN, I have to take some obligatory potshots at the website in question. When I have to use Safari's reader mode to see what you wrote, something has gone terribly…

I know everyone is busy but the author provides the definition explicitly:

> And what I mean by taste here is simply the honed ability to distinguish mediocrity from excellence. This will be highly subjective, and not everyone’s taste will be the same, but that is the point, you should NOT have the same taste as someone else.

Concisely, discernment.

So your comment about “artistic quality” may apply. But from your ends sentence It seems you equate “artistic quality” to aesthetics , and I don’t think that’s what the author intended.

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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post #21
post #7

I’d like to tinker with that font, it burns my eyes to try and read the words styled like that, maybe that’s the intent?

i am fascinated with that effect and turned off every CSS rule on the page I could find but did not identify how you make that effect

I love it too. Appears to be accomplished with this CSS, which you can tinker with by finding the :after element at the bottom of the tag in browser devtools:

  body::after {
    content: "";
    position: fixed;
    top: 0;
    left: 0;
    width: 100%;
    height: 100%;
    background-image: linear-gradient(rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.4) 1px, transparent 1px);
    background-size: 2px 2px;
    background-repeat: repeat;
    pointer-events: none;
    z-index: 9999;
  }

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

#28

I despise the word "taste" for preferring specific software and workflows. Why are you selecting for aesthetic experience over usefulness? I do get satisfaction from the results of my work, not through the mechanical process of arriving there. Tools are useful or not and this is the category by which I decide to use them or not.

Is the author doing that over usefulness or doing that in addition to usefulness? Some people would also enjoy the journey with the tool, along with the results. Just because someone enjoys the 'taste' of the tool doesn't mean that they don't care about usefulness.

Also usefulness is very subjective too depending on the context and scope.

Re: Tinkering is a way to acquire good taste

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I despise the word "taste" for preferring specific software and workflows. Why are you selecting for aesthetic experience over usefulness? I do get satisfaction from the results of my work, not through the mechanical process of arriving there. Tools are useful or not and this is the category by which I decide to use them or not.

> And what I mean by taste here is simply the honed ability to distinguish mediocrity from excellence. This will be highly subjective, …

It is not about aesthetics , from my reading. You brought that connotation into the conversation.

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