This seems related to another hosting site that got caught out by this recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45538760
Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
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Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#22If you block those internal subdomains from search with robots.txt, does Google still whine?
I’ve heard anecdotes of people using an entirely internal domain like “plex.example.com” even if it’s never exposed to the public internet, google might flag it as impersonating plex. Google will sometimes block it based only on name, if they think the name is impersonating another service. Its unclear exactly what conditions cause a site to get blocked by safe browsing. My nextcloud.something.tld domain has never be…
https://photos.example.com/albums/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx...
Then suddenly the domain is banned even though there was never a way to discover that URL besides GMail scanning messages. In my case, the server is public so my siblings can access it, but there's nothing stopping Google from banning domains for internal sites that show up in emails they wrongly classify as phishing.
Think of how Google and Microsoft destroyed self hosted email with their spam filters. Now imagine that happening to all self hosted services via abuse of the safe browsing block lists.
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#23If you're going to host user content on subdomains, then you should probably have your site on the Public Suffix List https://publicsuffix.org/list/ . That should eventually make its way into various services so they know that a tainted subdomain doesn't taint the entire site....
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#24Be sure to see the team's whole list of Cursed Knowledge. https://immich.app/cursed-knowledge
The Postgres query parameters one is funny. 65k parameters is not enough for you?!
Sqlite used to have a limit of 999 query parameters, which was much easier to hit. It's now a roomy 32k.
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
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As someone who doesn't like Google and absolutely thinks they need to be broken up, no probably not. Google's algorithms around security are so incompetent and useless that stupidity is far more likely than malice here.
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#26I think the other very interesting thing in the reddit thread[0] for this is that if you do well-known-domain.yourdomain.tld then you're likely to get whacked by this too. It makes sense I guess. Lots of people are probably clicking gmail.shady.info and getting phished. 0: https://old.reddit.com/r/immich/comments/1oby8fq/immich_is_a...
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#27This may not be a huge issue depending on mitigating controls but are they saying that anyone can submit a PR (containing anything) to Immich, tag the pr with `preview` and have the contents of that PR hosted on https://pr- .preview.internal.immich.cloud? Doesn't that effectively let anyone host anything there?
I think only collaborators can add labels on github, so not quite. Does seem a bit hazardous though (you could submit a legit PR, get the label, and then commit whatever you want?).
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Postgres query parameters one is funny. 65k parameters is not enough for you?!
As it says, bulk inserts with large datasets can fail. Inserting a few thousand rows into a table with 30 columns will hit the limit. You might run into this if you were synchronising data between systems or running big batch jobs. Sqlite used to have a limit of 999 query parameters, which was much easier to hit. It's now a roomy 32k.
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#29I tried to submit this, but the direct link here is probably better than the Reddit thread I linked to: https://old.reddit.com/r/immich/comments/1oby8fq/immich_is_a... I had my personal domain I use for self-hosting flagged. I've had the domain for 25 years and it's never had a hint of spam, phishing, or even unintentional issues like compromised sites / services. It's impossible to know what Google's black box is do…
Re: Google flags Immich sites as dangerous
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’ve heard anecdotes of people using an entirely internal domain like “plex.example.com” even if it’s never exposed to the public internet, google might flag it as impersonating plex. Google will sometimes block it based only on name, if they think the name is impersonating another service. Its unclear exactly what conditions cause a site to get blocked by safe browsing. My nextcloud.something.tld domain has never be…
I'm almost positive GMail scanning messages is one cause. My domain got put on the list for a URL that would have been unknowable to anyone but GMail and my sister who I invited to a shared Immich album. It was a URL like this that got emailed directly to 1 person: https://photos.example.com/albums/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx... Then suddenly the domain is banned even though there was never a way to discover that URL…