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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by rchaud »

randycupertino wrote: post #15
rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

I noticed music in TV shows is AI slop so they don't have to pay licensing fees lately as well. I was watching Unsolved the series about the Notorious BIG and Tupac murders a few weeks ago and in one of the club scenes a "Biggie" song that I'd never heard of was playing in the background, I wasn't familiar with that song so I googled it and it was an ai Biggie inspired recreation, not one of his actual songs.

That's awful. Stuff like this is why I mourn the loss of MTV and VH1; they would actually license artists' music in their Behind the Music documentary episodes, I discovered a lot of artists that way.

The Beavis & Butthead and Daria shows in the '90s also used a lot of licensed music. When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals; I'm not sure the torrents of the original versions are even being seeded anymore.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by gfehhffvvv »

rhetocj23 wrote: post #8
Narciss wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here’s another: https://suno.com/s/v3LuDD9SjVPohVB7

I listened to both and they both sounded soul-less.

Seemed adequately soulful to me. Not my favorite, but better than I could do. As another bit of anecdata.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by [deleted] »

rchaud wrote: post #20
CharlesW wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Spotify's biggest enemy is Spotify. Apple Music doesn't have this problem.

Apple Music isn't a solo business and doesn't report its figures publicly, so it's not known if its margins would be sustainable if it weren't anchored to its much bigger Software and Services unit, which itself is anchored to an even bigger hardware sales unit.

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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by gfehhffvvv »

brazukadev wrote: post #11
Narciss wrote: post #6

I love making AI music. Sometimes I freestyle rap over instrumentals that I’ve created with AI, record myself and then use that recording to create an AI song. Some of the songs I really love, like this one: https://suno.com/s/o4oyu5Eq7nMdQyzK There’d be more to say - but of course, creating songs without regard to their quality or your input in them is slop that shouldn’t be shared.

Lots of people love making them, almost nobody likes listen to them so you are the audience of the app you use to create it, not a creator.

Given parent’s handle I think you’re on to something.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

rchaud wrote: post #13

Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Slowly ramp up the AI slop while ramping down the label-owned material and hope subscribers don't notice. It's a play that worked for Netflix, which used to have every major show a decade ago and is now majority mass-produced Netflix Original slop.

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Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by CharlesW »

rchaud wrote: post #20
CharlesW wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Spotify's biggest enemy are the record labels that they have to pay license fees to. Spotify's biggest enemy is Spotify. Apple Music doesn't have this problem.

Apple Music isn't a solo business and doesn't report its figures publicly, so it's not known if its margins would be sustainable if it weren't anchored to its much bigger Software and Services unit, which itself is anchored to an even bigger hardware sales unit.

Spotify pays ~70% of revenue to rights-holders, so unless you assume that Apple is paying a lot more, Apple Music is almost certainly profitable both as a standalone service and as a strategic bundle driver.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by SpecialistK »

rchaud wrote: post #21
randycupertino wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I noticed music in TV shows is AI slop so they don't have to pay licensing fees lately as well. I was watching Unsolved the series about the Notorious BIG and Tupac murders a few weeks ago and in one of the club scenes a "Biggie" song that I'd never heard of was playing in the background, I wasn't familiar with that song so I googled it and it was an ai Biggie inspired recreation, not one of his actual songs.

That's awful. Stuff like this is why I mourn the loss of MTV and VH1; they would actually license artists' music in their Behind the Music documentary episodes, I discovered a lot of artists that way. The Beavis & Butthead and Daria shows in the '90s also used a lot of licensed music. When the DVD versions arrived in the mid-2000s, the music was removed and replaced by stock instrumentals; I'm not sure the torrents o…

I found the Daria Restoration Project online a few years ago. Haven't watched it yet, because the quality is more in line with 2000s Limewire DivX files. But if I do decide to watch the show, it should be with the original music.

Re: AI Slop is taking over Spotify

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Post by Zopieux »

Most people love making AI music by throwing a 5-word prompt at Suno and being in awe at "their" creation.

However, it is also a fact that the vast majority of people can't care less to listen to their friends' and family's Sunos, as they were not involved in the process and therefore can't vibe to the random soul-less soup.

Please keep your slop for yourself.

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