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AI-generated 'poverty porn' fake images being used by aid agencies

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I've always hated when even real images are used to promote something, but the image is unrelated. Example: a horrific image of a smashed car to show the result of drunk driving or phone use but where that wasn't the actual cause of the crash in the picture. Claiming "this is a result of xxx" is a lie. There are plenty of real cases out there so if you're making stuff I can't trust you - particularly for those asking for donations.

So now they use AI imagining stuff...

Re: AI-generated 'poverty porn' fake images being used by aid agencies

#22
Ughhh... really, "poverty porn"? So it's a problem when aid agencies competing for resources towards a mostly sensible goal do it – but when everyone else fakes images, it's not, because... we didn't expect decent behavior anyway?

Fantastic.

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#23

“They are so racialised. They should never even let those be published because it’s like the worst stereotypes about Africa, or India, or you name it,” said Alenichev. This is a problem and always has been with AI, people have been saying this for at least a decade at this point. Type in "photorealistic picture of child in refugee camp" in any AI that lets you.

Isn't it just probabilistic? That's who's most likely in poor and/or in refugee camps.

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> “It saddens me that the fight for more ethical representation of people experiencing poverty now extends to the unreal,” she said. This is an odd way of saying "people aren't aware of poverty amongst white people".

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How's it a wild leap?

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#25
I have suspected that I have seen some of these for Palestine in recent months. Not saying this has any implication on the broader reporting of it but… shit we’re really kind of screwed if media starts portraying everything via fictitious dramatization imagery. Especially on social media.

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I was thinking about it, because wife was telling me story from work, where a woman was scammed with AI generated stuff and her colleague was a little too nonchalant about it ( 'it is on her to do her due diligence' ). And it made me annoyed. How can you possibly make due diligence when everyone around you is incentivized to lie? We do have a concept of fraud, but advertising seems to be able to move around its edges…

Empathy is a hackable interface- those that are exposing it, are in this attention economy civil war zone- lesser beings by default.

They once where protected by the state- but the state, as policeman- has been continuously reduced in its protector role, by those, who found hackable political interfaces, the ticks on the state wave through the fleas on the people. The pent-up backlash to all this results in a militant vote for anti-parasitic and exposure limiting institutions.

Fascism promises to remove those attackers, by fire-walling away the exterior and prosecuting perceived attackers on the inside of the nation.

Every successful scam, every allowed exploit, is a advertising for the totalitarians who promise to restore order.

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I’m old enough to remember the Sally Struthers ads… I suspect that we’ll be seeing AI-generated images of everything (including product shots), soon. I’ll bet the biggest driver, will be that there won’t be any issues with provenance. I occasionally get attempts at “extortion,” with my sites, where they try to claim an image in my postings is pirated (I always make sure of provenance —I used to work for a photography…

> I suspect that we’ll be seeing AI-generated images of everything (including product shots), soon.

This is already a thing. There are high-quality tools specifically for it. I saw a video from a photographer who works in that industry and his opinion is that their jobs are over and they need to prepare to do something else.

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I was thinking about it, because wife was telling me story from work, where a woman was scammed with AI generated stuff and her colleague was a little too nonchalant about it ( 'it is on her to do her due diligence' ). And it made me annoyed. How can you possibly make due diligence when everyone around you is incentivized to lie? We do have a concept of fraud, but advertising seems to be able to move around its edges…

> How can you possibly make due diligence when everyone around you is incentivized to lie?

You can't and the correct response is a total lack of trust by default because that's the easiest way to protect yourself.

They really are out to get you(r money).

Re: AI-generated 'poverty porn' fake images being used by aid agencies

#29

I was thinking about it, because wife was telling me story from work, where a woman was scammed with AI generated stuff and her colleague was a little too nonchalant about it ( 'it is on her to do her due diligence' ). And it made me annoyed. How can you possibly make due diligence when everyone around you is incentivized to lie? We do have a concept of fraud, but advertising seems to be able to move around its edges…

TBF, I just assume everyone is lying (either first hand or second) and its on them to prove to me they're not. Hasn't failed me yet.

I honestly hate that idea. I am slowly adjusting, but I got used to the idea that you can at least trust the other party not to outright lie ( although I was already expected omission, and other 'normal selling tactics' ).

I posit that what we need is heavily enforced truth in advertising laws.

Re: AI-generated 'poverty porn' fake images being used by aid agencies

#30

So Adobe Stock (Photos) has no problem selling images staging visual tropes in global health (suffering subject and white saviour tropes) instead of decolonising their imagery and participating in a more equal postcolonial societies. Money is obviously more important to them than a basic human right such as a respectful and sensitive depiction of people.

Why is it that anybody who uses the word "decolonizing" or some variant of it just seems to think doing racism again but from "the oppressed" and then Orwellianly gussying it up in academic pseudo-intellwwhere is the answer to everything? I have seen them unironically suggest race-limited elections as the proper way to do referendums. While dehumanizing people as "colonizers", charging them with the sins of their forefathers, and promoting ethnic cleansing.

Can you even actually define what the actual fuck you would change in the imagery in this context of soliciting donations from largely white people?

Goddamn right it is about money! Money marshalls the resources which can help people. This is kindergarten level comprehension about what charity is and why they want money.

Don't talk to about human rights when you expand them so frivolously, and yet show a clear disregard for the effect on outcome of actual people in favor of scoring ideological correctness points. Only somebody incredibly privileged would have such skewed priorities.

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