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Re: RMS Lifestyle

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Post by MarsIronPI » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 9:36 PM UTC

presbyterian wrote: post #12

MarsIronPI wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually agree with his conclusion. In my experience, rap is the only(?) genre of "music" that for the most part lacks a melodic structure. It (in my experience) is mostly rhythmic, which IMO is not very pleasant to listen to, because there isn't much to listen to. So while maybe I wouldn't refer to it as c...rap all the time, I think the phrase mostly expresses my feelings about the genre as a whole.

I feel like the people who say this simply haven’t listened to much of it, because there’s melody all over rap and hip-hop music, especially more contemporary rap.

OK, I'll out myself: I haven't listened to much rap. On the other hand, this is because of the impression I've gotten from the rap that I have heard. I'm open to trying some more melodic and musically interesting rap pieces, especially because the rhyming system of rap sounds interesting. Do you have any to recommend?

Re: RMS Lifestyle

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Post by rstuart4133 » Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 9:37 PM UTC

dingnuts wrote: post #6

reverius42 wrote: post #3

I can't stand his use of "c...rap" to describe rap/hip-hop. This is like the "Micro$oft" of musical genre hatred (and frankly comes across as slightly, um, racist? given his embrace of like every other genre in the world besides "harsh" rock/metal).

he's not like us https://stallman-report.org/on-sex-with-minors/

A lot of things about Stallman are unusual. Creating a C compiler, library, editor, and from that a software movement is unusual. He is clearly neurodivergent; doesn't / can't anticipate how people will react to his opinions on socially fraught topics. History shows he is usually right, but doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut. I think the world is a better place for that, but it's come at his expense.

The author of that report, Drew DeVault, is also neurodivergent. Like Stallman he becomes fixated on topics, to the point of obsession. As a case in point, he obviously spends an inordinate amount of time stalking Stallman. It must of taken he years to gather all those references in the report you linked to.

Sadly DeVault's neurodivergence hasn't driven him to create a movement that binds people together, to create something bigger than of those people any could do alone that benefits everyone in the way Stallman has. Instead it drives he to attack others, and tear down what they have created.

Neurodivergent's make fairly easy targets, so I guess it's easy to understand why DeVault targets someone like Stallman and the movement he created instead of someone like Trump. Still, watching one neurodivergent tear into another in the way DeVault is fond of doing makes me very uncomfortable.

Re: RMS Lifestyle

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Post by pcthrowaway » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 2:18 PM UTC

boomskats wrote: post #4

I want to hear this jazz folk fusion Bulgarian wedding music now. He could have at least included a link or two :/

I doubt RMS would use any platform he could link to online. He likely listens to public domain music, copyleft music, or perhaps he pirates it.

Re: RMS Lifestyle

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Post by pcthrowaway » Tue, Oct 21, 2025, 2:31 PM UTC

MarsIronPI wrote: post #21

presbyterian wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like the people who say this simply haven’t listened to much of it, because there’s melody all over rap and hip-hop music, especially more contemporary rap.

OK, I'll out myself: I haven't listened to much rap. On the other hand, this is because of the impression I've gotten from the rap that I have heard. I'm open to trying some more melodic and musically interesting rap pieces, especially because the rhyming system of rap sounds interesting. Do you have any to recommend?

Hip hop can include elements of any other genre, so if you shared what kind of music you do like, it might be easier for others to direct you to hip hop you might also like.

I'm quite partial to instrumental hip hop personally; for example, "Jet Son" by Blockhead is nearly absent of lyrics - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wo5jHw56Kg . "Here's What's Left" by RJD2 on the other hand is lyrical, but the lyrics aren't really rap, and the production overshadows it in my opinion (I initially heard it as an "instrumental"/vocal-less track which I can no longer find online) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECvbG7ioz-k

I don't listen to much hip hop with lyrics lately, but pretty much any type of music can be rapped over. For example, "Stan" by Eminem uses Dido's "Thank you" which might otherwise be classifed as electropop or trip-hop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sixjHud8lYw

Re: RMS Lifestyle

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Post by presbyterian » Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 3:55 PM UTC

MarsIronPI wrote: post #21

presbyterian wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like the people who say this simply haven’t listened to much of it, because there’s melody all over rap and hip-hop music, especially more contemporary rap.

OK, I'll out myself: I haven't listened to much rap. On the other hand, this is because of the impression I've gotten from the rap that I have heard. I'm open to trying some more melodic and musically interesting rap pieces, especially because the rhyming system of rap sounds interesting. Do you have any to recommend?

Try the album Sometimes I Might Be Introvert by Little Simz, it's one of my favorite records of all time. It's doing a ton of interesting things musically, plus Simz is an incredible rapper.