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OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This honestly doesn’t surprise me. We have reached a point where it’s becoming clearer and clearer that AGI is nowhere to be seen, whereas advances in LLM ability to ‘reason’ have slowed down to (almost?) a halt.

Hence the pivot into ads, shop-in-chat and umm.. adult content.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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Humans hallucinating about AI.

Humans "hallucinate" in the AI way constantly, which is why I don't see them as a barrier to LLMs replacing humans in many contexts. It really isn't unusual for a human to make stuff up or be unaware of stuff.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This entire thing has been pretty disingenuous on both sides of the fence. All the anti-AI (or anti OpenAI) people are doing victory laps, but what GPT-5 Pro did is still very valuable. 1) What good is your open problem set if really its a trivial "google search" away from being solved. Why are they not catching any blame here? 2) These answers still weren't perfectly laid out for the most part. GPT-5 was still doing…

AI great, but AI not creative, yet.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This entire thing has been pretty disingenuous on both sides of the fence. All the anti-AI (or anti OpenAI) people are doing victory laps, but what GPT-5 Pro did is still very valuable. 1) What good is your open problem set if really its a trivial "google search" away from being solved. Why are they not catching any blame here? 2) These answers still weren't perfectly laid out for the most part. GPT-5 was still doing…

This is a strawman argument. No anti-AI sentiment was involved here. Simply the fact that finding and matching text on the Internet is several orders of magnitude easier than finding novel solutions to hard math problems.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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Another instance of openAI manipulating results to prolong their unsustainable circular hype bubble. The inevitable collapse could be even more devastating than the 2008 financial crisis. All while so vast resources are being wasted on non-verifiable gen AI slob, while real approaches (neuro-symbolic like DeepMind's AlphaFold) are mostly ignored financially because they don't generate the quick stock market increases…

People keep spouting this, but I don't see how the AI bubble bursting would be all that devastating. 2008 was a systemic breakdown rippling through the foundations of the financial system. It would lead to a market crash (80% of gains this year were big tech/AI) and likely a full recession in the US, but nothing nearly as dramatic as a global systemic crisis. In contrast to the dot com bubble, the huge AI spending is…

> People keep spouting this, but I don't see how the AI bubble bursting would be all that devastating.

Well, an enormous amount of debt is being raised and issued for AI and US economic growth is nearly entirely AI. Crypto bros showed the other day that they were leveraged to the hilt on coins and it wouldn't surprise me if people are the same way on AI. It is pretty heavily tied to the financial system at this point.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This entire thing has been pretty disingenuous on both sides of the fence. All the anti-AI (or anti OpenAI) people are doing victory laps, but what GPT-5 Pro did is still very valuable. 1) What good is your open problem set if really its a trivial "google search" away from being solved. Why are they not catching any blame here? 2) These answers still weren't perfectly laid out for the most part. GPT-5 was still doing…

You're moving the goal post.

Re: OpenAI researcher announced GPT-5 math breakthrough that never happened

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This entire thing has been pretty disingenuous on both sides of the fence. All the anti-AI (or anti OpenAI) people are doing victory laps, but what GPT-5 Pro did is still very valuable. 1) What good is your open problem set if really its a trivial "google search" away from being solved. Why are they not catching any blame here? 2) These answers still weren't perfectly laid out for the most part. GPT-5 was still doing…

> What good is your open problem set if really its a trivial "google search" away from being solved. Why are they not catching any blame here?

They are a community run database, not the sole arbiter and source of this information. We learned the most basic research back in highschool, I'd hope researchers from top institutions now working for one of the biggest frontier labs can do the same prior to making a claim, but microblogging has and continues to be a blight on any accurate information so nothing new there.

> GPT-5 was still doing some cognitive lifting to piece it together.

Cognitive lifting? It's a model, not a person, but besides that fact, this was already published literature. Handy that a LLM can be a slightly better search, but calling claims of "solving maths problems" out as irresponsible and inaccurate is the only right choice in this case.

> If a human would have done this by hand it would have made news [...]

"Researcher does basic literature review" isn't news in this or any other scenario. If we did a press release every journal club, there wouldn't be enough time to print a single page advert.

> [...] how many other solutions are out there that just need pieced together from pre-existing research [...]

I am not certain you actually looked into the model output or why this was such an embarrassment.

> But, you know, AI Bad.

AI hype very bad. AI anthropomorphism even worse.

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