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New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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And just as importantly: "Mr Key says he has also asked the Inspector-General to recommend any measures he considered necessary to prevent the issue from happening again."

As this government would do absolutely anything to get closer to the US, I suspect you're not right. Even the previous government tried fairly hard (troops to Afghanistan for example), but this time it's shameless.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Same goes for Australia, there's a high level of corruption in the form of donations to politicians.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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It is great to see that there are still "somewhere" in the world high level politicians who take these kind of things seriously. Judging by the coziness of the US administration with the Entertainment industry and its lacking willingness to clean up issues such as the Fast and Furious/AFT gunwalking scandal, I very much doubt that this would have happened in the US.

It's worth noting that in NZ, the Prime Minister is also the Minister overseeing the GCSB. He has to sign off on all surveillance warrants, too. So at the very least it's a huge and public failure in his department; at the worst, he's complicit in illegal surveillance. It's yet to be seen what his involvement is, but his whole involvement in this case has reeked of ass-covering and distancing. It'll be interesting to…

If you read this article http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&obj... he specifically states "Prime Minister John Key has revealed the GCSB was acting without his sign-off".

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

That's an index of visible corruption.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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post #22
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Same goes for Australia, there's a high level of corruption in the form of donations to politicians.

Theres no way to avoid the sort of "corruption" that you speak of - when an individual (or entity) has money, it can be translated to power thru the use of it.

The difference is that at least donations are (supposed to be?) listed and tracable, and can be scrutinized if necessary.

Compare it with the sort of corruptino you find in countries like india, and china, where you _have_ to give money to the official to get your paper signed to do somethign that ordinarily you should'nt have to (e.g., may be you'd like to open a car import/export business. you'd be paying quite a few visites to gov't officials with expensive gifts or unmarked bills).

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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post #14
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See also MP John Banks' “I can only help you if your donations to me are anonymous” to Dotcom. This case is making public a whole lot of what looks like routine corruption.

Yet NZ is supposed to have next to no corruption. OK... [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Well, "next to no corruption" is still within bounds...

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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And just as importantly: "Mr Key says he has also asked the Inspector-General to recommend any measures he considered necessary to prevent the issue from happening again."

As this government would do absolutely anything to get closer to the US, I suspect you're not right. Even the previous government tried fairly hard (troops to Afghanistan for example), but this time it's shameless.

Sorry, terrible phrasing, and I can't seem to edit it. >>As this government would do absolutely anything to get closer to the US, I suspect nothing will come of any investigation. Even the previous government tried fairly hard (troops to Afghanistan for example), but this governments pandering is shameless. The Dotcom case being a prime example.<<

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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It seems 'Democracy' will be coming to NZ soon.

What are you talking about? New Zealand has a flourishing democracy.

Or is this supposed to be some kind of hip/ironic comment suggesting... what, that the US is going to invade NZ?

This is an example of why political articles foster commentary that is... less than stellar.

Re: New Zealand PM requests inquiry into illegal Megaupload wire tapping

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It seems 'Democracy' will be coming to NZ soon.

What are you talking about? New Zealand has a flourishing democracy. Or is this supposed to be some kind of hip/ironic comment suggesting... what, that the US is going to invade NZ? This is an example of why political articles foster commentary that is... less than stellar.

The US sphere of influence is very well maintained and the US Government will not tolerate deviation, it would be surprising to not see diplomatic pressure applied onto New Zealand. The US may not invade NZ in the sense you're thinking but NZ going to get the US Government's attention (which is rarely a good thing).
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