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Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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Is anyone here even still using Windows in a professional way?

At least 90% of our internal administration and my boss, mostly for excel and exchange. But it is quite present in offices at public institutions too.

Mostly people who don't have any choice.

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IMO the best way for Linux to win is to advocate it to your kids. People usually stick to whatever they learned and played with during childhood, and if we can make a whole generation Linux aware, not as a server but as a desktop, then the time of Linux desktop is foreseeable.

Instead of poaching to the adults, poach it to the kids. Tell them stories of hackers, etc.

We can also volunteer in schools for a few sessions of introduction to Linux.

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Is anyone here even still using Windows in a professional way?

Nearly everyone who wants to get work done and is not in the IT-Bubble for example:

https://www.autodesk.com/products

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer-aided_manufac...

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I wish I could also live in a planet where throwing away perfectly good PCs is fine and there's no looming climate-change-induced destruction...

Usually they get recycled. I wouldn't stress about it.

Around 22% is "recycled" sometimes in disgusting ways:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5r4hFY_oh8

Same story with clothes, paper and plastic recycling, it's just talk and green-washing.

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IMO the best way for Linux to win is to advocate it to your kids. People usually stick to whatever they learned and played with during childhood, and if we can make a whole generation Linux aware, not as a server but as a desktop, then the time of Linux desktop is foreseeable. Instead of poaching to the adults, poach it to the kids. Tell them stories of hackers, etc. We can also volunteer in schools for a few session…

This is even more important now as younger generations are just given iPads and other locked down devices, to the point where they have to learn how to navigate a file system in their introductory university courses.

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Lots of "obsolete" Pc's are perfectly able to run W11, only missing the blessings from Redmond.

I wish I could also live in a planet where throwing away perfectly good PCs is fine and there's no looming climate-change-induced destruction...

Old machines use a lot of power, so not good for the climate. My rule of thumb is if it's less powerful than a $90 raspberry pi 400, which uses 10 watts max, it's probably worth e-wasting.

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I wish I could also live in a planet where throwing away perfectly good PCs is fine and there's no looming climate-change-induced destruction...

Usually they get recycled. I wouldn't stress about it.

Where is this dream-land? They got dumped along other mixed trash and lay for decades. Same with old, perfectly fine iPads with retina displays.

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With WSL2, Windows 11 could easily have been the best Linux distribution on the planet, supporting all Windows apps while also giving you the full power of Linux at your terminal. Unfortunately Microsoft decided to stuff it with user hostile spyware instead.

Eh, no. WSL2 is kind of bad compared to a proper Linux environment, you'll encounter so many tiny cuts that eventually you'll yearn for a proper environment where stuff just works instead of having to fight against the built-in "interoperability" stuff Microsoft has added that just gets in the way and introduces new issues. Saying this as someone who've used both Linux and Windows as a main OS for decades, and would…

My trick is to use git bash as my primary shell on windows and Podman for Windows (not desktop / just the cli app). It's still not nearly as nice as using Arch but a reasonable approximation in a pinch.

Re: Windows 10 refugees flock to Linux in what devs call their "biggest launch"

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I'm one of these people. Although it was a several years long plan for me, which involved learning new software (especially 3DS Max to Blender). I finally decided to bite the bullet around 8 weeks ago. Backed up everything, wiped Windows, installed Ubuntu. I wouldn't says it's been smooth sailing. I've had a ton of technical issues which are not all resolved (I still can't get my laptop to wake from sleep, I have to…

Yup, I'm very fond of Dell's Ubuntu laptops. Ubuntu just works, and I rarely need to mess with anything. (I have had occasional hardware problems over the years, but they have an on-site support option that works well even in rural areas.) I honestly have more weird software issues with my work Mac.

Random Windows laptops have been slightly more frustrating. Hibernation may not work out of the box, and sometimes one other piece of random hardware won't be usable. For a laptop that basically lives on a desk, you might get away with it.

Desktops are usually easier. They don't have as much built-in hardware, hibernation to disk may not be necessary, and it's easier to replace a webcam or something if you need to. I'd still check the graphics card, especially if it's an expensive one.

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