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Re: Amazon’s Ring to partner with Flock

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everdrive wrote: post #12

George Orwell really never could have imagined that people would flock to purchase or otherwise use the methods of their own surveillance. (smart phones, social media, smart cameras, modern cars, etc) I think it paints government surveillance policies in something of a different light. There is definitely a constituency which believes that the evil central government is pushing for surveillance in a purely unilateral…

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Post by kotaKat »

bryancoxwell wrote: post #8

Might be a good time to enable E2EE on your Ring cams if you haven’t already: https://ring.com/support/articles/7e3lk/using-video-end-to-e...

Bad news: Ring just enabled opt-in-by-default "search parties" for people to leverage your outdoor cameras to find their "lost animals".

https://ring.com/search-party

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Post by card_zero »

themafia wrote: post #11
CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If history has thought us anything, it has to be that capitalists have absolutely no spine and only think about profits, no matter what.

We used to know this inherently and we spent half a century passing really well thought out and actionable laws designed to thwart the darker side of capitalism while still allowing it's benefits to accrue to the masses. Since then we've forgotten how to enforce anti monopoly and media ownership rules. Similarly we've somehow completely turned campaign financing into an open competition for bribes.

So, in this situation when a large company cooperates with intrusive policing, you think the problem is that the company is too large and that enforcement of laws should have taken place? To prevent this collaboration with law enforcement?

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Post by mihaaly »

everdrive wrote: post #12

George Orwell really never could have imagined that people would flock to purchase or otherwise use the methods of their own surveillance. (smart phones, social media, smart cameras, modern cars, etc) I think it paints government surveillance policies in something of a different light. There is definitely a constituency which believes that the evil central government is pushing for surveillance in a purely unilateral…

I already have problem with negligent people using products like Ring that is to surveil anyone around without control, with uncontrollable and unreliable level of standard handling collected data (no high hopes here). But when I find it very very hard and limited purchasing products that cannot spy on me - special mention here for smart phones and cars - that makes me mad to the next level. Even for the elevated level privacy concious folks the car and the smart phone bringing hostility for your private life is getting harder and harder to avoid. Not having the suitable time to do the tedious investigations and costly trials into the reliability of products with low surveillance risks, not to mention the constant need of keeping yourself up do date to everything involved in this regard! We need to live our life, cannot spend it on constant workarounds, hacks, and very reasonable paranoia. When logging into essential services are MANDATING the use of smart phones (i.e. MFA, but own apps sometimes, requiring specific vendors!!), not to mention the need of getting from A to B the way required (goods, children, time limits, navigation), but cannot procure a solution that will not expose you to adverse agents or even criminals (those getting in and out of systems nowadays like they live there) that makes me really really mad! This society is shit. I cannot do it, but feel the highly increasing need for becoming the real life Captain Fantastic [1].

[1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3553976/

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Post by saubeidl »

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Post by taneq »

kotaKat wrote: post #23
bryancoxwell wrote: post #8

Might be a good time to enable E2EE on your Ring cams if you haven’t already: https://ring.com/support/articles/7e3lk/using-video-end-to-e...

Bad news: Ring just enabled opt-in-by-default "search parties" for people to leverage your outdoor cameras to find their "lost animals". https://ring.com/search-party

“Opt-in-by-default” is a lot of words to say “opt-out”.

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Post by newsclues »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #5
touwer wrote: post #4

Big tech is nothing different from the German industrialists one hundred years ago

If history has thought us anything, it has to be that capitalists have absolutely no spine and only think about profits, no matter what.

History also teaches us about communism but so many people refuse to accept that part of history and romance it.

So why wouldn’t any accept capitalism and ignore its flaws?

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Post by mikkupikku »

Aachen wrote: post #14

These are mappable in OpenStreetMap with the tags surveillance:type=camera + camera:mount=doorbell Data query around the Netherlands shows about a hundred are mapped so far as specifically doorbell cameras: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/2dQw (the tag does not yet seem established in the USA). There are also many thousands of cameras mapped that are either not doorbell-mounted, or simply not tagged to such detail. This…

Seems like a fairly impractical thing to map unless you're getting volunteers to walk up to and inspect people's front doors. I know there is an app for a sort of gamified version of this where people take tasks to verify street signs or even how many stories a building has, I used that app for a while, but doorbell mapping seems a lot leas casual.
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