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4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

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Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

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Come to think of it, parental control would be a neat application for something like Apple Intelligence. A local system service that is "trustworthy enough" to monitor everything on screen, and written content too.

This would enable/catalyze an order of magnitude more child abuse than anything that can happen on the worst cesspits of the internet.

I don't see how a content blocker would do that.

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Sure, but you'd need to apply it to all phones, because what's stopping a kid from buying an adult smartphone if they have the money? And smartphones can be dirt cheap.

Also remember that the pop-up is an industry choice, the rules only mandate that a user should opt in, not how. No laws mandate the cookie banners, no regulations say they should be obnoxious.

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#23

I bought a 4chan pass today just to support the effort. If there's ever a hornets nest you don't want to fuck with it's 4chan and i can't imagine a better poking stick than ofcom.

the rasion d'etre of 4chan can probably be discussed forever, but i can't imagine donating money to such a vile, hate-filled platform. surely there are better causes fighting for the same things, right?

i know, freedom of speech, it's your money and not mine, etc.

Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

#24

Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Age restricted filtering of the internet is the default on all UK mobile networks as far as I know, it might even be the law that it defaults to filtering. You have to actually ring them up and say you want the filtering switched off or some do it as part of the sign up process.

All the routers also come with filtering settings as well and ISPs ship with the filtering on by default, since that is the law and has been for several decades.

Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Come to think of it, parental control would be a neat application for something like Apple Intelligence. A local system service that is "trustworthy enough" to monitor everything on screen, and written content too.

Why Apple Intelligence when screen recording has been a feature for parental control systems for ages?

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>The way we protect British kids from the Internet is to make better and more capable Britons, rather than to try and kidproof the entire internet. If only it were that easy. For me as a parent, my approach is to implement a "Great personal firewall" - that is, internet restrictions that decrease over time as they mature, and starting with essentially zero access. Unfortunately, it's probably doomed to fail as other…

Same problem. Tried to balance some kind of freedom with limitations but it just didn't work. Then I found discord, read through some chats... Now it's just outright forbidden to have anything with a chat. And no Internet. The problem is that other 10 year old have mobiles, free PC access, etc, so there constant peer pressure.

Some peoples are funny :) And there are parents ;)

Kids go to school, have lessons, right ? And few minutes breaks between lessons ? How that parents want to censorship what kids talk about ? Not to mention phones use. And why exactly ?

Thing is as it always is: parents make fundamens in culture/world view eg via their views and religion they subscribe. And then society and reality takes over. What society you have ?

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same problem. Tried to balance some kind of freedom with limitations but it just didn't work. Then I found discord, read through some chats... Now it's just outright forbidden to have anything with a chat. And no Internet. The problem is that other 10 year old have mobiles, free PC access, etc, so there constant peer pressure.

Exactly, plus there's free, mostly unrestricted wifi everywhere. If your child has some pocket or birthday money they can freely spend, they can walk into an electronics store, buy a cheap smartphone or tablet and have unrestricted access. At home measures are at best a delay, not a fix. What you also have to do is actually communicate with your child. If you're strict about what they can and cannot do on the interne…

That was originally going to be my plan - my kids can have a smartphone when they can afford to buy one themselves. I figured that by this point they would be old and experienced enough to deal with it. As I pointed out above, some of their peers at ages 5-7 already have parentally-supplied smartphones. It sucks that I'm probably going to have to talk to my currently 5-year-old girl very soon about what the internet has to offer.

Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

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Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

UK mobile networks and ISPs have had age-restricted content filtering enabled by default since ~2013-14.

This policy was pushed by David Cameron, who was the prime minister at the time:

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-internet-and-porn...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23401076

Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

#29
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have thought about this for a really, really long time. The conclusion is, it's a service problem, not a howto-block problem kid-friendly content is under supplied and often bad maintained. To quote GabeN: Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem

How much would be enough supply, in your opinion? Because there is a lot, there is no shortage. But it's not forbidden or hidden away, so kids aren't curious about it.

> Because there is a lot, there is no shortage.

Yes, but the problem is, many (if not most) of those content or services were created by adults and dispised by kids.

pick one your kid's most interested topic, are there enough kid-friendly content/services that fulfills all the needs?

Re: 4Chan Lawyer publishes Ofcom correspondence

#30

Is there a solution where we can compel parental control to be enabled by default on kids phones? That would seem to be least intrusive option. Using the internet in the UK/EU is such a horrible experience, every cookie pop-up is a reminder how badly thought out these rules are.

Sure, but you'd need to apply it to all phones, because what's stopping a kid from buying an adult smartphone if they have the money? And smartphones can be dirt cheap. Also remember that the pop-up is an industry choice, the rules only mandate that a user should opt in, not how. No laws mandate the cookie banners, no regulations say they should be obnoxious.

> Sure, but you'd need to apply it to all phones, because what's stopping a kid from buying an adult smartphone if they have the money? And smartphones can be dirt cheap.

What's to stop that same kid to buy a porno dvd? Or to download a torrent of a porno? Or a porn magazine?

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