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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

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Re: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

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post #15

Exactly why should not every elected person's full details including phone number and address be publicly available? If they are doing nothing bad they have nothing to fear from electorate. Honest man has nothing to fear as proverb say. And allowing direct communication would increase transparency and improve how well democracy can work.

Too many nutcases. You could be elected two seconds ago and there will already be a small line of people waiting to do you harm.

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post #6

I feel the fundamental problem is the idea of phone number being secret or private in the first place. It is just very weak form of access control, I believe we can do much better these days.

How so?

Besides being trivial to enumerate, every service and their mother is asking for a phone number, from physical stores/rentals/hotels who sometimes reject you if you say no, to the countless online services either asking for it or requiring it. I must have given away my phone number to hundreds if not thousands of entities after having it for more than 20 years.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How so?

Besides being trivial to enumerate, every service and their mother is asking for a phone number, from physical stores/rentals/hotels who sometimes reject you if you say no, to the countless online services either asking for it or requiring it. I must have given away my phone number to hundreds if not thousands of entities after having it for more than 20 years.

I was interested in how we could do much better, but I should have been more specific.

Re: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

#24
>The story was first reported by Ette Media, whose co-founder Antoinette Lattouf also had her number published on the site.

I wondered if the ABC would acknowledge who broke this story. (Latouffe sued the ABC earlier this year for wrongful dismissal and won.)

They didn't link to her new media company though or the original story (other news sites did).

https://www.ettemedia.com/exclusive-personal-phone-number-of...

Re: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides being trivial to enumerate, every service and their mother is asking for a phone number, from physical stores/rentals/hotels who sometimes reject you if you say no, to the countless online services either asking for it or requiring it. I must have given away my phone number to hundreds if not thousands of entities after having it for more than 20 years.

I was interested in how we could do much better, but I should have been more specific.

Incoming calls should be subject to acls and default-deny policy should be practical. This means that

- caller identity should not be spoofable

- identities should form hierarchies and groups so you can allow whole organizations instead of individuals

- organizations should use predictable identities for egress calls

- most likely managing multiple identities per device is needed (e.g. personal and work identites)

etc

None of this is particularly difficult technically. Even simply slapping x509 certs on calls and having some basic filtering would achieve a lot.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was interested in how we could do much better, but I should have been more specific.

Incoming calls should be subject to acls and default-deny policy should be practical. This means that - caller identity should not be spoofable - identities should form hierarchies and groups so you can allow whole organizations instead of individuals - organizations should use predictable identities for egress calls - most likely managing multiple identities per device is needed (e.g. personal and work identites) et…

> None of this is particularly difficult technically. Even simply slapping x509 certs on calls and having some basic filtering would achieve a lot.

Slapping x509 certs on probably some of the oldest telecommunications infrastructure in the world (both in terms of devices using it, and devices enabling it) wouldn't be "technically difficult"?

But I've never worked in telecommunications, maybe I'm overestimating how large piece of work this would be.

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls should be subject to acls and default-deny policy should be practical. This means that - caller identity should not be spoofable - identities should form hierarchies and groups so you can allow whole organizations instead of individuals - organizations should use predictable identities for egress calls - most likely managing multiple identities per device is needed (e.g. personal and work identites) et…

> None of this is particularly difficult technically. Even simply slapping x509 certs on calls and having some basic filtering would achieve a lot. Slapping x509 certs on probably some of the oldest telecommunications infrastructure in the world (both in terms of devices using it, and devices enabling it) wouldn't be "technically difficult"? But I've never worked in telecommunications, maybe I'm overestimating how la…

> maybe I'm overestimating

Probably not.

Re: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incoming calls should be subject to acls and default-deny policy should be practical. This means that - caller identity should not be spoofable - identities should form hierarchies and groups so you can allow whole organizations instead of individuals - organizations should use predictable identities for egress calls - most likely managing multiple identities per device is needed (e.g. personal and work identites) et…

> None of this is particularly difficult technically. Even simply slapping x509 certs on calls and having some basic filtering would achieve a lot. Slapping x509 certs on probably some of the oldest telecommunications infrastructure in the world (both in terms of devices using it, and devices enabling it) wouldn't be "technically difficult"? But I've never worked in telecommunications, maybe I'm overestimating how la…

Relative to the effort that has been poured to volte etc and 3g/4g/5g in general.

Re: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number made available online

#29
> The Australian Federal Police is formally seeking to get the prime minister's number removed.

As an Australian living in Australia, this reads as:

“We became so enraged that we formed a committee. We will be asking the government to let us nicely ask the criminals to nicely take down his number.”

The innocence is charming :)

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