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The App Store was always authoritarian

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Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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> exercise of utter worship

It’s insane to me that you deify their computers so much. It’s just the only popular computer company that has a coherent set of high level APIs and good hardware. It’s sad that they’re the only one but it doesn’t make them God

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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Ironically that's the point. A shitty app store with shitty apps won't become any better, it will be the same shitty experience plus authoritarian bs.

The same goes for the government as well IMHO. Authoritarian regimes are not any better than non authoritarian ones, it's just a management style.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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the internet was fine before appstores. sure, occasionally an idiot downloaded virus.exe, but that was never the end of the world.

98% agreed. Sometimes even smart and savvy persons end up doing it, I did once on SourceForge via their confusing buttons. But the virus was a Windows variant and would not run on my Mac. SourceForge has since cleaned up their act so no shade on them today.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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> exercise of utter worship It’s insane to me that you deify their computers so much. It’s just the only popular computer company that has a coherent set of high level APIs and good hardware. It’s sad that they’re the only one but it doesn’t make them God

Right? These comments are so bewildering. I like the design and UX, and the promise to at least a bit more privacy, but if I had to use android or windows or Ubuntu tomorrow, it’d be another device that I use. How you could even expend so much of your time to think about computers more than necessary to use them, much less worship a brand, is beyond me.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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post #9

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Ironically that's the point. A shitty app store with shitty apps won't become any better, it will be the same shitty experience plus authoritarian bs. The same goes for the government as well IMHO. Authoritarian regimes are not any better than non authoritarian ones, it's just a management style.

They are entirely different from governments, the word authoritarian just doesn’t carry over as an analogy.

An App Store that prevents you from using a given app has absolutely nothing in common with a state incriminating and jailing you for opposing the head of state.

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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Completely correct. The only way to ensure this doesn't happen is to criminalise device manufacturers being in charge of what software runs on their devices.

It's not "their devices". I recently bought a house and the previous owner kept trying to influence what I did with it, and everyone -- even those in government who ultimately had to help enforce my ownership rights -- agreed with me that that was ridiculous and intolerable. When Apple, Samsung, or whoever else sells something it isn't their's anymore! They have no right to continued involvement in it! That's how selling works!

Re: The App Store was always authoritarian

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Heh, that’s all very cool and lots of smart words, but have you thought of children? Have you thought of elderly falling and unable to get up[1]? Surely you don’t want your fellow citizens to fall for Russian, Chinese, Another State Actor propaganda? State surveillance on unprecedented level? Don’t be paranoid! Surely a state actor would never abuse the power to snoop for your private photos[2]! Electronic waste? Duo…

Not an Apple user, but they support their devices for a long time, so there is that.
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