Well better they spend time on this sort of stuff than say chat control. (Not that I am not supporter as meat eater...)
EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
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Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#22Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.
Some of modern vegetarianism in the West has involved reinventing familiar entrees to make them vegetarian. A lot of those efforts really have been disappointing.
I'd encourage new vegetarians to try embracing vegetarian staples from places like India, where culinary traditions have a lengthy proven history of supporting healthy and satisfying vegetarianism.
But I'd also say, some veggie burgers really are great. They taste good, they're satisfying, and nobody is deceived when they read "veggie burger" on the menu. This regulation is nonsense. It's just telling vegetarians that their linguistic tradition around their diets -- part of their cultural heritage -- is now banned in the EU.
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#23This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.
So a net positive.
I'd call it a net negative. A lot of regulations are straight up good - clean drinking water, food safety, no sketchy chemicals in clothes, electric appliances that don't catch on fire, the GDPR, consumer protections etc etc are all unequivocally good things.
Things like this bring the very useful tool of regulations into disrepute.
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#24I found that mostly people who are opposed to the existence of these products per se are proponents of this ban.
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#25This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.
It depends, its a war between the right to know what you are eating without studying it thoroughly first and the right to claim things as something that they are not.
In Europe people tend to be the first kind and see the government as tool for protecting them from the second kind.
The revolution is unlikely.
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#26We're going to see more ridiculous overreach like this as alternatives to meat consumption get more popular. (I say ridiculous because no one is getting confused by "veggie-burger")
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#27Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.
So its the right move because you dont like the taste of something?
It’s more about it being fake when they are delicious by themselves. Vegetables don’t need improvement, they are already respectable.
I think the idea just bothers me, “vegetables aren’t good enough, what you really want is fake meat.”
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#28This move will expand the public's belief that regulation means "a ridiculous incursion of rights," leading to greater belief that society is better off without regulation.
So a net positive.
No regulations is a fast-track to the megacorp dystopia, sadly... No regulations means no incentive to care about the actual living people
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#29This sort of thing would be comical if it weren't so blatantly and corruptly protecting meat producers. The reason the term evolved is because it works well in meaning. You don't have to like veggie burgers to see what's going on.
Let the verbal gymnastics commence. Or maybe places should start naming veggie burgers after the EU governance in satire?
Re: EU lawmakers push to ban term 'veggie-burger'
#30Vegetables are delicious. I wish vegan options would lean into this instead of trying to be fake meat. IMO grilled mushrooms are tastier than grilled goop pressed into burger form.
Some of modern vegetarianism in the West has involved reinventing familiar entrees to make them vegetarian. A lot of those efforts really have been disappointing. I'd encourage new vegetarians to try embracing vegetarian staples from places like India, where culinary traditions have a lengthy proven history of supporting healthy and satisfying vegetarianism. But I'd also say, some veggie burgers really are great. The…
That’s interesting. Which ones have you tried? I go to a vegan BBQ regularly but have found the burger options lackluster and visually unsettling vs just getting grilled veggies.
I’d try more if you have recommendations. I think I hit all the major players though.
Edit: I noticed you were downvoted and just want to advocate for you. I don’t know why people have such reactions to reasonable discussions :/ If you’re reading this I want you to know I appreciate your comment and I hope you aren’t discouraged from sharing in the future.