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ICE-tracking app developers aren’t giving up
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Re: ICE-tracking app developers aren’t giving up
#22Do not obey in advance Historian Timothy Snyder’s first lesson in his book On Tyranny is “Do not obey in advance.” To obey a tyrant before you are compelled to do so teaches them what they will be able to get you to do, easily, without even needing to expend the resources and energy it takes to carry out that part of their agenda.
But..but... the profits!
Who will think of the uber-wealthy?!?!?!
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't know where people got the impression that Apple seriously resisted government coercion I think it was either the way they added the two-button passcode lock that can be done without pulling the phone out of your pocket, the San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone (2016), Apple's resistance to the UK's backdoor requirement in ADP, or maybe when they wouldn't unlock the Pensacola Shooter's iPhone (2019), Apple's meth…
You know you're lost if the main argument is a whataboutism.
Listing examples in response to a question for examples is whataboutism in your estimation?
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't know where people got the impression that Apple seriously resisted government coercion I think it was either the way they added the two-button passcode lock that can be done without pulling the phone out of your pocket, the San Bernardino Shooter's iPhone (2016), Apple's resistance to the UK's backdoor requirement in ADP, or maybe when they wouldn't unlock the Pensacola Shooter's iPhone (2019), Apple's meth…
You're conflating public vs private. PRISM is private data collection and probably unconstitutional/illegal owing to the 4th amendment. So any information provided by PRISM is not directly used. Instead there is parallel construction [1] - the NSA (or whatever other agency they provide intel to) creates a pretext for how they obtained the information/evidence that sidesteps the real source. For instance if they pick…
There is no evidence of Parallel construction in iOS. NSA/other baddies wants to surveil, Apple is fighting this more than any other large company I know of.
Today's announcement from Apple further flies in the face of your arguments: https://security.apple.com/blog/apple-security-bounty-evolve...
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're conflating public vs private. PRISM is private data collection and probably unconstitutional/illegal owing to the 4th amendment. So any information provided by PRISM is not directly used. Instead there is parallel construction [1] - the NSA (or whatever other agency they provide intel to) creates a pretext for how they obtained the information/evidence that sidesteps the real source. For instance if they pick…
There is no evidence of Parallel construction in iOS. NSA/other baddies wants to surveil, Apple is fighting this more than any other large company I know of. Today's announcement from Apple further flies in the face of your arguments: https://security.apple.com/blog/apple-security-bounty-evolve...
> There is no evidence of Parallel construction in iOS.
Parallel construction isn't a technical "feature" on any phone. It is a way the NSA can use their de-facto coercion powers, ones that Apple has already admitted to fielding. If Apple is fighting this "more than any other large company" you know of, you better trust them a whole lot more than any of us do. There is no evidence that Cook has resisted this admin, at the going rate it seems like a Tweet is all it takes for him to redesign the ecosystem.
> Today's announcement from Apple further flies in the face of your arguments
Apple has always had a pitiful security bounty. It's why NSO Group burns their zero-days instead of disclosing them responsibly. Nobody cares what Apple will pay you if the exploit is worth more.
Mind you, Apple tried to sue NSO Group but then dropped the case after their federal handlers warned them of fighting with Israeli intel: https://www.securityweek.com/apple-suddenly-drops-nso-group-...
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I don't know where people got the impression that Apple seriously resisted government coercion. Their company is right there in the PRISM leaks, and Senator Wyden called them out (alongside Google) on backdooring Push Notifications years ago. Didn't people want Apple's thoughtful, executive curation? If you're still not switching phones, what gives? Apple won this fight years ago, I'm shocked that we only now see peo…
Switch phones to what? A company whose entire business model is tracking and selling ads that also took the app offline?
Oh good, the "grass is never greener" arguement!
You don't have to use a smartphone. You can buy a flip phone, a $20 Android handset or even a Linux burner that handles SMS, takes photos and keeps your voicemail. Or you could use no phone at all.
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Switch phones to what? A company whose entire business model is tracking and selling ads that also took the app offline?
Oh good, the "grass is never greener" arguement! You don't have to use a smartphone. You can buy a flip phone, a $20 Android handset or even a Linux burner that handles SMS, takes photos and keeps your voicemail. Or you could use no phone at all.
Right - and lose directions, the ability to use messaging apps I use for work, and “using no phone” so I can’t contact anyone?
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Oh good, the "grass is never greener" arguement! You don't have to use a smartphone. You can buy a flip phone, a $20 Android handset or even a Linux burner that handles SMS, takes photos and keeps your voicemail. Or you could use no phone at all.
Right - and lose directions, the ability to use messaging apps I use for work, and “using no phone” so I can’t contact anyone?
Mobile data and maps will stay, if you trust a WWAN modem enough. Your messaging apps for work should be on a work device, not your personal phone.
And yes, using "no phone" is a perfectly amicable solution to the problem. I know, it sounds wild. You can still make it 24 hours without touching Instagram in 2025, I've checked myself.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right - and lose directions, the ability to use messaging apps I use for work, and “using no phone” so I can’t contact anyone?
Mobile data and maps will stay, if you trust a WWAN modem enough. Your messaging apps for work should be on a work device, not your personal phone. And yes, using "no phone" is a perfectly amicable solution to the problem. I know, it sounds wild. You can still make it 24 hours without touching Instagram in 2025, I've checked myself.
You said “no phone” as in no method for anyone to contact me.
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There is no evidence of Parallel construction in iOS. NSA/other baddies wants to surveil, Apple is fighting this more than any other large company I know of. Today's announcement from Apple further flies in the face of your arguments: https://security.apple.com/blog/apple-security-bounty-evolve...
> There is no evidence of Parallel construction in iOS. Parallel construction isn't a technical "feature" on any phone. It is a way the NSA can use their de-facto coercion powers, ones that Apple has already admitted to fielding. If Apple is fighting this "more than any other large company" you know of, you better trust them a whole lot more than any of us do. There is no evidence that Cook has resisted this admin, a…
> you better trust them a whole lot more than any of us do
Who are you speaking for when you say "any of us do"? I don't know many technically competent people who would choose an Android device at retail over an iOS device at retail, and if you do, you should question their specific reason to see if they're competent.