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Kurt Got Got

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Re: Kurt Got Got

#21
CEO here, I also almost got taken by a fake legal notice about a Facebook post. My password manager would not auto enter my password so I tried manually entering it like a dummy. Fortunately, it was the wrong one.

Re: Kurt Got Got

#22
post #17
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

This whole story is about us getting zapped because we relied on a good long password in a password manager!

Re: Kurt Got Got

#24
post #7

I want to say again that the key thing in this post is that anything "serious" at Fly.io couldn't have gotten phished: your SSO login won't work if you don't have mandatory phish-resistant 2FA set up for it. What went wrong here is that Twitter wasn't behind that perimeter, because, well, we have trouble taking Twitter seriously. We shouldn't have, and we do take it seriously now.

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Re: Kurt Got Got

#25
post #7

I want to say again that the key thing in this post is that anything "serious" at Fly.io couldn't have gotten phished: your SSO login won't work if you don't have mandatory phish-resistant 2FA set up for it. What went wrong here is that Twitter wasn't behind that perimeter, because, well, we have trouble taking Twitter seriously. We shouldn't have, and we do take it seriously now.

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Twitter isn't an operational dependency of ours and we don't attest to it at all. It also doesn't require we do that: what SOC2 actually demands of vendor security practices is much more complicated (and performative) than that. If Twitter were a real vendor dependency of ours, most of what we'd need would be a SOC2 attestation from them.

Re: Kurt Got Got

#26
post #8

Ever since I almost got phished (wasn't looking closely enough at the domain to notice a little stress mark over the "s" in the domain name, thankfully I was using a hardware wallet that prevented the attack entirely), I realized that anyone can get phished. They just rely on you being busy, or out, or tired, and just not checking closely enough. Use passkeys for everything, like Thomas says.

>I realized that anyone can get phished

A few years ago, I managed to get our InfoSec head phished (as a test). No one is safe :)

Re: Kurt Got Got

#27
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Counterpoint: don't use passkeys, they're a confused mess and add limitations while not giving any benefits over a good long password in a password manager.

Yep. A technical half-baked solution to a problem that has been solved since it's inception. Really just feels like FAANG exists to invent new ways to charge rent...

What’s the solution for preventing this kind of phishing attack?

Re: Kurt Got Got

#28
That's some impressive work on the attackers part having that whole fake landing page ready to go, and a pretty convincing phishing email.

I'm don't know much about crypto so I'm not sure what makes them call the scam 'not very plausible' and say it 'probably generated $0 for the attackers', is that something that can be verified by checking the wallet used in that fake landing page?

Re: Kurt Got Got

#29
post #21

CEO here, I also almost got taken by a fake legal notice about a Facebook post. My password manager would not auto enter my password so I tried manually entering it like a dummy. Fortunately, it was the wrong one.

This is exactly why I turned off auto enter.

Re: Kurt Got Got

#30

This is why properly working password managers are important, and why as a web site operator you should make sure to not break them. My password not auto-filling on a web site is a sufficient red flag to immediately become very watchful. Code-based 2FA, on the other hand, is completely useless against phishing. If I'm logging in, I'm logging in, and you're getting my 2FA code (regardless of whether it's coming from a…

How does this square with the fact that the tech savvy person in the post was phished despite using a password manager.
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