ICE bought vehicles equipped with fake cell towers to spy on phones

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 7:16 PM UTC

fzeroracer wrote: post #20

psunavy03 wrote: post #5

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A Federal government agency is "a paramilitary group operating illegally inside the US?" What? "I think they're being employed in a shitty and potentially illegal manner outside their remit" is a perfectly arguable take that doesn't require tinfoil-hattery.

It doesn't require any tinfoil-hattery though because everything they're doing is very public. Like you look at their actions Chicago [1] and I think it's impossible to NOT think they're an illegal paramilitary group. They're rounding up, detaining and arresting US citizens and destroying their property under the guise of sweeping illegal immigrants. They've violated people's constitutional rights multiple times over…

Post by spoaceman7777 » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 7:21 PM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #12

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 7:26 PM UTC

theultdev wrote: post #21

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

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> ICE is simply enforcing federal immigration laws “From January to June, the average number of detainees per day in ICE custody rose 43 percent, to more than 57,000. But since July, when the [OBBA] funding was approved, the detainee population has increased only about 5 percent, to roughly 60,000, the latest statistics show. The stream of social-media clips showing masked federal agents kicking down doors, raiding H…

Difference between deportations under Obama vs Trump is they aren't coming right back over. Easy to inflate deportations when you catch the same fish and the river is flowing. Much slower when you dam off the river and have to dig the remaining catfish out of the mud.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 7:29 PM UTC

vuggamie wrote: post #23

leakycap wrote: post #2

> the relationship between the agency and the company predates the Trump administration IMSI catchers/stingrays have been common practice in local law enforcement for decades, haven't they? How is this different? > Some cell-site simulators can also intercept regular calls, text messages, and internet traffic. In what decade was this true, other than text messages? I don't think it is very easy even for an IMSI catch…

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Post by softwaredoug » Tue, Oct 07, 2025, 7:35 PM UTC

cosmicgadget wrote: post #13

hedora wrote: post #4

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It's different because ICE is a paramilitary group operating illegally inside the US. They don't get warrants, engage in racial profiling, disappeared 2/3rds of the people sent to some of their facilities, arrest citizens, assault peaceful protesters, etc. They're doing this over the objection of state and local authorities, and despite the fact that their actions have been repeatedly ruled illegal by the courts.

It is critical to understand that as a general rule, what they are doing is completely legal. We created the conditions for this to happen and are empowered to change it.