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Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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And China too with its ~30-31% of world CO2.

Considering America is literally promoting fossil fuels over renewables and the US administration is publicly saying climate change is a scam, I think America deserves more flack than China here

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Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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I’m having a hard time contributing anything intellectually interesting. This is emotionally terrifying to me. What can be said?

If you have a bucket list, start working on the things that are most vulnerable. Things you want to see may disappear within your lifetime, so go see it while you can.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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I’m having a hard time contributing anything intellectually interesting. This is emotionally terrifying to me. What can be said?

China is building, domestically deploying, and exporting solar, wind, batteries, and EVs so fast that the world will have no choice but to rapidly move towards net zero simply due to economics. Existing excess atmospheric carbon emissions remain to be sequestered. China deployed 277GW of solar in 2024 and is accelerating, having deployed 212GW in the first half of 2025. 1GW of solar is being deployed globally every 1…

Incorrect; energy dependence on a nuclear power with a general desire to displace existing hegemons isn't a wise or tenable policy.

If you care about America using carbon-light power you should throw your weight behind nuclear, geothermal, and some wind/solar/battery manufactured domestically, by allies, or within our sphere of influence.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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I have believed for years that Americans would have a completely different attitude to global warming if the Lower 48 had more glaciers. In the Alps, you can easily walk to places where there are 100m of ladders to reach a hut that used to be at the level of the ice. In Canada, you can drive to places that used to be the toe of a glacier, then drive another half-mile to the parking lot, built at the edge of the glacier 20 years ago, then walk even farther on loose rubble. 1.5℃ of warming feels abstract and trivial. A giant piece of ice disappearing feels much more real.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is building, domestically deploying, and exporting solar, wind, batteries, and EVs so fast that the world will have no choice but to rapidly move towards net zero simply due to economics. Existing excess atmospheric carbon emissions remain to be sequestered. China deployed 277GW of solar in 2024 and is accelerating, having deployed 212GW in the first half of 2025. 1GW of solar is being deployed globally every 1…

Incorrect; energy dependence on a nuclear power with a general desire to displace existing hegemons isn't a wise or tenable policy. If you care about America using carbon-light power you should throw your weight behind nuclear, geothermal, and some wind/solar/battery manufactured domestically, by allies, or within our sphere of influence.

The United States had a chance to lead, they tried to build domestically (Inflation Reduction Act), and it was sabotaged by governance choices. Someone else has demonstrated their ability to execute and deliver. Elections have consequences. Better luck next time.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Incorrect; energy dependence on a nuclear power with a general desire to displace existing hegemons isn't a wise or tenable policy. If you care about America using carbon-light power you should throw your weight behind nuclear, geothermal, and some wind/solar/battery manufactured domestically, by allies, or within our sphere of influence.

The United States had a chance to lead, they tried to build domestically (Inflation Reduction Act), and it was sabotaged by governance choices. Someone else has demonstrated their ability to execute and deliver. Elections have consequences. Better luck next time.

Cool, I do, and I care more about her than about carbon because I and my people live here. So I will oppose any policy that cedes leadership or hegemony. See you at the ballot box, I guess.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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I have believed for years that Americans would have a completely different attitude to global warming if the Lower 48 had more glaciers. In the Alps, you can easily walk to places where there are 100m of ladders to reach a hut that used to be at the level of the ice. In Canada, you can drive to places that used to be the toe of a glacier, then drive another half-mile to the parking lot, built at the edge of the glaci…

Plenty of Americans can see and feel the effects of global warming, they just don't think addressing it is worth the effort.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States had a chance to lead, they tried to build domestically (Inflation Reduction Act), and it was sabotaged by governance choices. Someone else has demonstrated their ability to execute and deliver. Elections have consequences. Better luck next time.

Cool, I do, and I care more about her than about carbon because I and my people live here. So I will oppose any policy that cedes leadership or hegemony. See you at the ballot box, I guess.

You should probably vote for someone who doesn't dismantle every attempt to preserve a future for your children and their children.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China is building, domestically deploying, and exporting solar, wind, batteries, and EVs so fast that the world will have no choice but to rapidly move towards net zero simply due to economics. Existing excess atmospheric carbon emissions remain to be sequestered. China deployed 277GW of solar in 2024 and is accelerating, having deployed 212GW in the first half of 2025. 1GW of solar is being deployed globally every 1…

Incorrect; energy dependence on a nuclear power with a general desire to displace existing hegemons isn't a wise or tenable policy. If you care about America using carbon-light power you should throw your weight behind nuclear, geothermal, and some wind/solar/battery manufactured domestically, by allies, or within our sphere of influence.

If Americans cared about the world, they would abolish their military and voluntarily lower their emissions.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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I have believed for years that Americans would have a completely different attitude to global warming if the Lower 48 had more glaciers. In the Alps, you can easily walk to places where there are 100m of ladders to reach a hut that used to be at the level of the ice. In Canada, you can drive to places that used to be the toe of a glacier, then drive another half-mile to the parking lot, built at the edge of the glaci…

I mean it doesn't seem like Canadians have any different attitude (judging by carbon footprint) and they have glaciers. The truth is nobody really cares about global warming, just their own comfort at this moment :/ It's just the human condition.
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