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AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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The bubble pops when Apple releases an iPhone that runs a good enough for most things LLM locally. At that point cloud hardware investments will plateau (unless some new GPU melting use case comes out). Investors will move from nvidia, AMD into Apple.

that's... some years... from now

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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> As part of the arrangement, AMD issued a warrant that gives OpenAI the ability to buy up to 160 million shares of AMD for 1 cent each over the course of the chips deal. The warrant vests in tranches based on milestones that the two companies have agreed on. This is money printing, just in the private sector. We know what happens when governments do it, and it's not good.

It’s quite specifically not money printing, because it’s backed by something.

It could be bad sure but it’s not money printing

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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The terms of some of these deals now are so completely bonkers it would be funny if it wasn’t so scary.

If someone was writing the script to “The Big Short 2” about the AI bubble they might struggle to come up with some of these things with a straight face.

Finance folks are salivating at the once in a generation opportunities ahead when this whole thing crumbles. CNBC seems to have at least one segment a day on “What’s your AI bubble burst play?”

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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Cheap cloud gaming. Those GPU's will finally push pixels again :)

Cloud gaming sucks due to latency, not price.

Which is something we already knew a decade ago.

Just like we knew self-driving AIs are not reliable.

The magical thinking was assuming they would just get better.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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What's the benefit to running LLMs locally? Data is already remote, LLM inferencing isn't particularly constrained by Internet latency. So you get worse models, performance, and battery life. Local compute on a power constrained mobile device is required for applications that require low latency or significant data throughput and LLM inferencing is neither.

The data you need is mostly not remote. A friend works at a software development company, they can use LLMs, but only local ones (local as in their datacenter) and it can only be trained on their code base). Customer service LLMs need to be trained on in-house material, not generic Internet sources. The general advantage is that you know that you're not leaking information, because there's nowhere to leak it to. You…

Local as in datacenter is the key there. The original comment was about end user devices.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

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Cheap cloud gaming. Those GPU's will finally push pixels again :)

Cloud gaming sucks due to latency, not price.

Played forza motorsport 5 on xbox cloud gaming and could not notice it. Of course I am the most non-serious player ever, but I really tried to notice, and for my standards it was fine.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

#28

It’s quite a good strategy to counteract the prevailing sense that “No one ever got fired for buying Nvidia GPUs”. AMD just doesn’t know how to compete with Nvidia. The best it can do is charge 10% less and release GPUs about the same level of underwhelming performance as Nvidia. Maybe they wouldn’t need to sell equity if they made better faster cheaper products than Nvidia. But Lisa Su can’t bring herself to compete…

At the end od the day it is not the CEO who invents / designs / builds the stuff.

I mean, they could recognize that Nvdidia has better ecosystem and they could provide something similar (CEO's job is to set this), but saying "just make better chips" is kind of funny.

I mean, I worked in companies where the CEO couldnt figure this out, but come on. It's AMD.

Re: AMD signs AI chip-supply deal with OpenAI, gives it option to take a 10% stake

#29

It’s quite a good strategy to counteract the prevailing sense that “No one ever got fired for buying Nvidia GPUs”. AMD just doesn’t know how to compete with Nvidia. The best it can do is charge 10% less and release GPUs about the same level of underwhelming performance as Nvidia. Maybe they wouldn’t need to sell equity if they made better faster cheaper products than Nvidia. But Lisa Su can’t bring herself to compete…

I think it's quite obvious why Lisa Su isn't motivated to financially crush her first cousin once removed. AMD is doing quite well in the CPU space and as such isn't even forced to compete in the GPU space. AMD could take market share from Nvidia, but they don't have to, because there is no one else who would take it either.
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