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Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

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I'm saddend by how little I care. I used to follow this quite intensely, and wished space-X the best. But with the owners antics, I just can't get myself to care that much. At the very least, that is sad for all the hardworking people at space-X.

care so much you write a comment saying you don't care. classic

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#22
post #19
post #17

I'm saddend by how little I care. I used to follow this quite intensely, and wished space-X the best. But with the owners antics, I just can't get myself to care that much. At the very least, that is sad for all the hardworking people at space-X.

seems like it is mostly sad for you

I think the sentiment is more widespread than you think. SpaceX has always succeeded despite Elon’s clown work. I for one would be absolutely humiliated to work for someone like him.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#23

The development timeline has been so strange. Falcon 9 was made so quickly compared to Starship. I would have expected a working rocket would have been quick - especially given they have a wealth of experience making the first one. And then I would have expected a protracted period of nailing down the landing and reuse And yet.. just getting this thing to orbit has been seemingly as hard as catching it coming down Do…

Was the falcon 9 that much faster? They also had issues with the initial launches of falcon 1 and 9. Plus they did not start with reusable rockets like they are here - it took years and many landing failures to get there. And of course the scale is a totally separate ballpark - falcon was in a scale that was well known, starship is in a scale rarely worked with.

Probably the closest comparable rocket to starship would be the N1, and that never successfully flew

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#24
post #13
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A crewed flight by 2033 might be possible if it's one-way.

It can't be anything else. The return ship should arrive separately with a minimal crew and with nearly full tanks. The first crew should spend some time on Mars on their own, inside the Starship, and maybe in buildings it erects, or tunnels it digs.

Definitely the tunnels. Buildings would need to be made out of lead or something. No windows.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#25
post #17

I'm saddend by how little I care. I used to follow this quite intensely, and wished space-X the best. But with the owners antics, I just can't get myself to care that much. At the very least, that is sad for all the hardworking people at space-X.

Don't discount all of the great engineers at SpaceX just because of their boss, they are still pushing the limits of rocket science every day! And who knows, maybe they're just like us, and they think their boss is a jerk just like any other company employee.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#26

The development timeline has been so strange. Falcon 9 was made so quickly compared to Starship. I would have expected a working rocket would have been quick - especially given they have a wealth of experience making the first one. And then I would have expected a protracted period of nailing down the landing and reuse And yet.. just getting this thing to orbit has been seemingly as hard as catching it coming down Do…

I am not even a rocket scientist but I heard starship was described as a ridiculously hard and super ambitious program. So it's not unexpected that it would take a while for the program to mature.

Falcon 9 was SpaceX's second rocket, but it also underwent several major changes before it becomes the workhorse that launches more than the rest of the world combined.

Again, I have no idea what the difficulties actually entails.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#27

The development timeline has been so strange. Falcon 9 was made so quickly compared to Starship. I would have expected a working rocket would have been quick - especially given they have a wealth of experience making the first one. And then I would have expected a protracted period of nailing down the landing and reuse And yet.. just getting this thing to orbit has been seemingly as hard as catching it coming down Do…

You may want to check your premise. Just because you weren't aware of the early stages of Falcon development doesn't mean it went quickly. Not even accounting for the fact this is orders of magnitude more complex and will be a huge leap forward in space logisstics if they can get it (and the reusability) to work

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#28
post #15
post #6

If there were a prediction market for which Mars transit window will see a crewed Mars mission, my money would be on 2033. In Musk chronology that's next week.

Although the rockets are developing fast enough, I've seen zero work on ISRU needed for returns; and politically, with two presidential elections due by then, the US now has a dichotomy between leadership who hate Musk and who will also destroy the US economy and might start wars with allies, and potential leadership that just hates Musk, a fork which is a fantastic way for even the world's richest man to find himsel…

Get rid of Musk and keep the rest of the leadership intact.

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#29
post #28
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although the rockets are developing fast enough, I've seen zero work on ISRU needed for returns; and politically, with two presidential elections due by then, the US now has a dichotomy between leadership who hate Musk and who will also destroy the US economy and might start wars with allies, and potential leadership that just hates Musk, a fork which is a fantastic way for even the world's richest man to find himsel…

Get rid of Musk and keep the rest of the leadership intact.

Would the rest even care to go to Mars if not for Musk?

Re: Starship's eleventh flight test

#30
post #17

I'm saddend by how little I care. I used to follow this quite intensely, and wished space-X the best. But with the owners antics, I just can't get myself to care that much. At the very least, that is sad for all the hardworking people at space-X.

What did their boss do that makes you feel so so sad?
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