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Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

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Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#21

Post by stavros »

Lio wrote: post #16
realusername wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say the EU manufacturers are in an even worse position than Toyota as their electric lineup isn't great and they have massive reliability problems on both ICE and BEV cars unlike Toyota. Currently they only survive in the EU thanks to tarrifs on Chinese cars. And I would say the opposite about Tesla, they experienced the biggest selling drop of all brands combined, if there's one brand going to crash first, I'd b…

Really? I think Renault are on a roll at the moment. The Renault 4, Renault 5 and Megan seem really competitive. The new Nissan Leaf (made in UK) also looks pretty good. VAG seem to have lost the plot (“let’s replace all the controls with a small, janky touch system that leaks personal information to hackers”) but their ID.7 isn’t total crap. Comparing Renaults to the Chinese brands I’ve seen (MG and BYD) the Chinese…

I have a BYD Seal and it's by far the most luxurious and best quality car I've owned, and my previous car was a Mercedes. I don't know what you've tried, but it doesn't feel cheap at all

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#24

Post by discordance »

ssl232 wrote: post #14
DecentShoes wrote: post #7

That's great, but the writing is still on the wall if Toyota doesn't get serious about electric cars. With their current trajectory Toyota is headed at 1000mph directly towards being the next Blackberry, Kodak, Nokia or Blockbuster. I say this as someone who owned a Prius for 10 years and loved it, and have also driven their hydrogen car. The BZ4X is badly named overpriced garbage, not enough and not good enough. The…

The iPhone did everything the Nokia 3310 did, better. Electric cars do not (yet) do better some things hybrids do, such as being able to be fuelled with 400+ miles of range in 5 minutes. I’m nowhere near the point of wanting an electric car to replace my hybrid. The convenience of petrol and the cost of electricity is too high. High electricity costs aren’t going to be fixed in my country any time soon so Toyota will…

Very little maintenance is one big feature. After 3 years I have only had to change the tires, air filter and windscreen wipers.

For long road trips I’ve never had an issue stopping to rest/stretch while fast charging for between 15-30 mins.

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#25

Post by iwontberude »

stavros wrote: post #20
ssl232 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone did everything the Nokia 3310 did, better. Electric cars do not (yet) do better some things hybrids do, such as being able to be fuelled with 400+ miles of range in 5 minutes. I’m nowhere near the point of wanting an electric car to replace my hybrid. The convenience of petrol and the cost of electricity is too high. High electricity costs aren’t going to be fixed in my country any time soon so Toyota will…

Just make sure you don't drive one, or you'll change your mind.

We’ve been driving them for over a decade now. They aren’t new anymore, and they still aren’t a panacea. There is this cool thing called car rental, it lets you use cars that aren’t your own.

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#26

Post by izacus »

realusername wrote: post #10
DecentShoes wrote: post #7

That's great, but the writing is still on the wall if Toyota doesn't get serious about electric cars. With their current trajectory Toyota is headed at 1000mph directly towards being the next Blackberry, Kodak, Nokia or Blockbuster. I say this as someone who owned a Prius for 10 years and loved it, and have also driven their hydrogen car. The BZ4X is badly named overpriced garbage, not enough and not good enough. The…

I'd say the EU manufacturers are in an even worse position than Toyota as their electric lineup isn't great and they have massive reliability problems on both ICE and BEV cars unlike Toyota. Currently they only survive in the EU thanks to tarrifs on Chinese cars. And I would say the opposite about Tesla, they experienced the biggest selling drop of all brands combined, if there's one brand going to crash first, I'd b…

What are you on about though? EU EV sales are through the roof and pretty much all brands now have good EV cars.

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#27

Post by izacus »

Lio wrote: post #16
realusername wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say the EU manufacturers are in an even worse position than Toyota as their electric lineup isn't great and they have massive reliability problems on both ICE and BEV cars unlike Toyota. Currently they only survive in the EU thanks to tarrifs on Chinese cars. And I would say the opposite about Tesla, they experienced the biggest selling drop of all brands combined, if there's one brand going to crash first, I'd b…

Really? I think Renault are on a roll at the moment. The Renault 4, Renault 5 and Megan seem really competitive. The new Nissan Leaf (made in UK) also looks pretty good. VAG seem to have lost the plot (“let’s replace all the controls with a small, janky touch system that leaks personal information to hackers”) but their ID.7 isn’t total crap. Comparing Renaults to the Chinese brands I’ve seen (MG and BYD) the Chinese…

ID.7 is the most sold EV model in EU so "not total crap" is an interesting definition. Other ID models are selling well too

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#28

Post by tonmoy »

ssl232 wrote: post #14
DecentShoes wrote: post #7

That's great, but the writing is still on the wall if Toyota doesn't get serious about electric cars. With their current trajectory Toyota is headed at 1000mph directly towards being the next Blackberry, Kodak, Nokia or Blockbuster. I say this as someone who owned a Prius for 10 years and loved it, and have also driven their hydrogen car. The BZ4X is badly named overpriced garbage, not enough and not good enough. The…

The iPhone did everything the Nokia 3310 did, better. Electric cars do not (yet) do better some things hybrids do, such as being able to be fuelled with 400+ miles of range in 5 minutes. I’m nowhere near the point of wanting an electric car to replace my hybrid. The convenience of petrol and the cost of electricity is too high. High electricity costs aren’t going to be fixed in my country any time soon so Toyota will…

Most EVs these days can recharge 300ish miles in 15 mins, but 99% of the time I don’t even have to drive anywhere to refuel as it get recharged overnight in my garage. EVs are waaay more efficient in terms of MPGe so at least for me it is less half in terms of cost to refuel compared to petrol not even considering the external cost of emitting CO2

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#29

Post by stavros »

iwontberude wrote: post #25
stavros wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just make sure you don't drive one, or you'll change your mind.

We’ve been driving them for over a decade now. They aren’t new anymore, and they still aren’t a panacea. There is this cool thing called car rental, it lets you use cars that aren’t your own.

There's also this thing called reading comprehension, I don't know where you can rent it, but sometimes it does help on online forums.

Re: Toyota runs a car-hacking event to boost security (2024)

#30

Post by iwontberude »

stavros wrote: post #29
iwontberude wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We’ve been driving them for over a decade now. They aren’t new anymore, and they still aren’t a panacea. There is this cool thing called car rental, it lets you use cars that aren’t your own.

There's also this thing called reading comprehension, I don't know where you can rent it, but sometimes it does help on online forums.

There’s also a thing called repeating a joke format for effect. And it’s not a very good effect.
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