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VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

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Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

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And somehow VMware Fusion doesn't have any problems after the same update ... sometimes you do get what you pay for (then again, I remember when an earlier Fusion update bricked itself, so YMMV).

A main reason many of us use Virtualbox is because of Vagrant. If the same thing was easily possible (Is it?) with Parallels or VMWare we'd use those exclusively. I have licenses for both and use Parallels for any Windows-required work.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#22
post #5

And somehow VMware Fusion doesn't have any problems after the same update ... sometimes you do get what you pay for (then again, I remember when an earlier Fusion update bricked itself, so YMMV).

A main reason many of us use Virtualbox is because of Vagrant. If the same thing was easily possible (Is it?) with Parallels or VMWare we'd use those exclusively. I have licenses for both and use Parallels for any Windows-required work.

Vagrant will work with Parallels and VMWare in the next 12 months.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#23
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm - is this just for Mac OS X or is this true for the windows version of virtualbox as well? I was trying to find the difference between virtualbox and vmware player on the windows side. Can't really decide between parallels and fusion though...I need to run some opengl stuff which isn't too complicated, but I'd rather it be solid. But I do like to use virtualbox to test some python/django/nginx builds so better ubu…

> Can't really decide between parallels and fusion though In case you haven't seen it, MacObserver did a comparison of Parallels to Fusion to VirtualBox recently (on the Mac): http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/benchmarking-parallel... Their conclusion is that Parallels 8 is a bit faster than VMWare Fusion 5 and both are much faster than VirtualBox. VirtualBox doesn't have nearly the 3D support of the others, so…

Parallels Desktop ist more polished than VMware Fusion but more expensive due to a higher number of paid upgrades – those are about the essential differences in my opinion.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#24
post #4

Basically: Oracle: We reported the bug a long time ago and still Apple released the update. Apple: ... Me: How the fuck am I going to work tomorrow? Maybe going full Vagrant wasn't a good idea after all :(

You have Linux/Ubuntu development envinroment, right? Why do you use it in a VM on a Mac in the first place?

Why not just using a fast desktop with a couple of monitors at your workplace? And ssh/xterm to it, if you need to work remotely?

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#25
post #5

And somehow VMware Fusion doesn't have any problems after the same update ... sometimes you do get what you pay for (then again, I remember when an earlier Fusion update bricked itself, so YMMV).

A main reason many of us use Virtualbox is because of Vagrant. If the same thing was easily possible (Is it?) with Parallels or VMWare we'd use those exclusively. I have licenses for both and use Parallels for any Windows-required work.

If it is Linux/Debian/Ubuntu the development environment setup problem can be solved by maintaining internal apt repository. It takes a bit of effort to setup, but after that it is a really smooth ride.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#26
post #4

Basically: Oracle: We reported the bug a long time ago and still Apple released the update. Apple: ... Me: How the fuck am I going to work tomorrow? Maybe going full Vagrant wasn't a good idea after all :(

You have Linux/Ubuntu development envinroment, right? Why do you use it in a VM on a Mac in the first place? Why not just using a fast desktop with a couple of monitors at your workplace? And ssh/xterm to it, if you need to work remotely?

Because being able to have a copy of the deployment environment - especially one that you can build, deploy and test automatically, is stupidly useful.

It's not being able to have a linux machine. It's being able to have one that you can build, throw away, test different deploy strategies on, etc. etc.

Suddenly you have all the developers dealing with deployment problems as soon as they occur - cutting that loooooong feedback loop to minutes saving everybody time, pain and money.

TL;DR - coz it's a good thing :-)

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have Linux/Ubuntu development envinroment, right? Why do you use it in a VM on a Mac in the first place? Why not just using a fast desktop with a couple of monitors at your workplace? And ssh/xterm to it, if you need to work remotely?

Because being able to have a copy of the deployment environment - especially one that you can build, deploy and test automatically, is stupidly useful. It's not being able to have a linux machine. It's being able to have one that you can build, throw away, test different deploy strategies on, etc. etc. Suddenly you have all the developers dealing with deployment problems as soon as they occur - cutting that loooooong…

Well, it can be as easy as 'sudo apt-get install mydevenv'.

Create a corporate apt repository with your custom modules/libs/ets and mydevenv module that includes all the dependencies. And that's it. You can recreate the environment with one command...

Edit: Uh. Deployment environment. Sorry. Yes. Having QA/Deployment env. in VM is a way to go.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A main reason many of us use Virtualbox is because of Vagrant. If the same thing was easily possible (Is it?) with Parallels or VMWare we'd use those exclusively. I have licenses for both and use Parallels for any Windows-required work.

Vagrant will work with Parallels and VMWare in the next 12 months.

How are the chances of a version working with libvirt/kvm?

Would be willing to help.

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have Linux/Ubuntu development envinroment, right? Why do you use it in a VM on a Mac in the first place? Why not just using a fast desktop with a couple of monitors at your workplace? And ssh/xterm to it, if you need to work remotely?

Because being able to have a copy of the deployment environment - especially one that you can build, deploy and test automatically, is stupidly useful. It's not being able to have a linux machine. It's being able to have one that you can build, throw away, test different deploy strategies on, etc. etc. Suddenly you have all the developers dealing with deployment problems as soon as they occur - cutting that loooooong…

Get a Linux box you can run VMs on then (ie non virtualised), or use a cloud service?

Re: VirtualBox broken on Ivy Bridge Macbooks after 10.8.2 and Firmware Update

#30
post #4

Basically: Oracle: We reported the bug a long time ago and still Apple released the update. Apple: ... Me: How the fuck am I going to work tomorrow? Maybe going full Vagrant wasn't a good idea after all :(

I'd be interested in knowing whether this is genuinely a bug on Apple's side or whether it's something that VirtualBox should have been aware of. It sounds like a bug, but if there's an issue with virtualization surely VMWare and Parallels would also have broken functionality as well.
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