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Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

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Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

#21

Armchair analysis: Germany is preparing for war and all of Europe is asking them. Well, this won't end well for Russia. Germany is one of the biggest industrial producers in the world.

Unless we deescalate this won't end well for anyone. Except maybe mil-ind complex shareholders.

Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

#22

Europe is buying billions of Russian gas and petrochemicals. https://energyandcleanair.org/financing-putins-war/ The first step when finding yourself in a hole is to stop digging.

Except they can't.

Europe is struggling with soaring energy costs and a lack of alternatives. Whether it's red tape or unfortunate geography, Europe cannot afford to turn off the Russian gas tap.

A benevolent US would see this and find ways to bridge the gap for Europe and lower its energy costs, further choking Russia.

A less benevolent US would see this and encourage it to continue, weakening both parties and sowing internal feuds within Europe.

Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

#27
Is there some reason Europeans should go to war to satisfy the desires of American organizations?

Is there some reason European citizens should go to war to satisfy the desires of _political_ scientists - a dubious category at best?

Or to put it another way - why don't the political scientists at these American organizations put on their fighting gear and go fight in Ukraine?

Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

#28

How do you (especially Europeans) understand this move from Russia? Can it really sustain a war against us? Does it want to break NATO by proving the US won't move?

Russia is burning money, even with the billions they get from EU to pay for gas they are reaching the end of their "runway" and if there are no big changes and the economy goes to hell, Putin will very quickly get very unpopular with Russians. This seems like a desperate move to provoke a larger war which can keep Putin in power for a while longer.

Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

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post #17

I am not sure what European "leaders" expected. Many of them support Ukraine militarily in the war, so yes, EU is in fact in war with Russia, through Ukraine as a proxy. I oppose the military support to Ukraine. I think it's responsibility of the stronger party, here NATO, to seek deescalation. I also disapprove that the military support for Ukraine was decided undemocratically, without any consideration whether this…

What was undemocratic about the decisions to support Ukraine?

Re: Europe Can No Longer Ignore That It's Under Russian Attack

#30

How do you (especially Europeans) understand this move from Russia? Can it really sustain a war against us? Does it want to break NATO by proving the US won't move?

I have heard this move characterized as "horizontal escalation". Putin is stuck in Ukraine (hasn't taken anything strategically significant, controls less territory than 3 years ago). So he tries to widen the confrontation geographically.
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