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Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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Years down the road, when US children are dying from easily preventable childhood diseases. Nothing RFK Jr. might do will outweigh the death and suffering he will cause by restricting and maligning vaccines today.

83 deaths at least and counting....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Samoa_measles_outbreak

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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My understanding is that there are somewhat more restrictive regulations on food dyes in the EU compared to the US. But that overall there isn't a big concern about the majority of these dyes. There also isn't a fundamental difference between a synthetic and a natural dye. Okay, humans are more likely to have encountered a natural dye during their evolution and adapted to ingesting them. But that is unlikely to matte…

The sheer percentage of artificial food dyes that have been banned suggests otherwise. There’s a long pattern of banning something once enough evidence builds up only to be replaced by something that’s then eventually banded. If there where significant value that might be different, but there isn’t a great argument for experimenting on millions of people here.

How many artificial food dyes have been actually banned? I mean in the time where we actually had some regulations, the old days were quite wild in terms of safety in all areas, so I don't think that would be a useful comparison.

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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My understanding is that there are somewhat more restrictive regulations on food dyes in the EU compared to the US. But that overall there isn't a big concern about the majority of these dyes. There also isn't a fundamental difference between a synthetic and a natural dye. Okay, humans are more likely to have encountered a natural dye during their evolution and adapted to ingesting them. But that is unlikely to matte…

> My understanding is that there are somewhat more restrictive regulations on food dyes in the EU compared to the US.

There isn't. The US's FDA allows fewer of them than the EU's EFSA.

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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My understanding is that there are somewhat more restrictive regulations on food dyes in the EU compared to the US. But that overall there isn't a big concern about the majority of these dyes. There also isn't a fundamental difference between a synthetic and a natural dye. Okay, humans are more likely to have encountered a natural dye during their evolution and adapted to ingesting them. But that is unlikely to matte…

But this is likely also an attempt to market to people who think things like "but I don't want to be exposed to chemicals" while not realizing water is a chemical.

This is the kind of nerd-snark that makes normal people not trust anything from the mouths of "experts."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKw6YjqSfM

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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> We won’t see the full effect of his efforts until years down the road.

What are the expected outcomes of this change? What are the efforts that are driving this? The linked article cites consumer preferences as a primary driver for removing synthetic dyes, not any FDA regulations enforcing their removal.

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sheer percentage of artificial food dyes that have been banned suggests otherwise. There’s a long pattern of banning something once enough evidence builds up only to be replaced by something that’s then eventually banded. If there where significant value that might be different, but there isn’t a great argument for experimenting on millions of people here.

How many artificial food dyes have been actually banned? I mean in the time where we actually had some regulations, the old days were quite wild in terms of safety in all areas, so I don't think that would be a useful comparison.

I don’t recall the exact number, but well over half that have been in common use were eventually banned.

Edit Prior to this administration: Butter yellow, Green 1, Green 2, Orange 1, Orange 2, Orange B, Red 1, Red 2, Red 4, Red 32, Sudan 1, Violet 1, Yellow 1, Yellow 2, Yellow 3, Yellow 4 + some more in the really early days.

EU had a longer list including Titanium dioxide.

Re: Walmart U.S. moves to eliminate synthetic dyes across all private brand foods

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My understanding is that there are somewhat more restrictive regulations on food dyes in the EU compared to the US. But that overall there isn't a big concern about the majority of these dyes. There also isn't a fundamental difference between a synthetic and a natural dye. Okay, humans are more likely to have encountered a natural dye during their evolution and adapted to ingesting them. But that is unlikely to matte…

I could not find my reference but I thought it was something more along the lines that either they don’t need to be disclosed in the EU or they go under different safer sounding names.
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