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Why friction is necessary for growth

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Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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Related: Wolff's Law

"bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads under which it is placed.If loading on a particular bone increases, the bone will remodel itself over time to become stronger to resist that sort of loading. [...] The inverse is true as well: if the loading on a bone decreases, the bone will become less dense and weaker due to the lack of the stimulus required for continued remodeling."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolff%27s_law

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be very fun and ironic if all this research, turmoil and energy waste just boiled down to a "better ad machine". I'm aware of other applications of AI and LLMs, but what most of the people see are the consumer facing ones like ChatGPT/Gemini/etc.

Well, what I don’t mind, are truly relevant ads. This is different from showing me (a man in my 60s) ED medicine ads, unsolicited, whenever I visit a news site. The behavior I need is typical “honest broker” behavior. These folks have been around for centuries. It’s a totally valid (and valuable) service. If I can present a specific workflow and requirements description to ChatGPT, and it responds with paid recommend…

When I think about ads, I think about Google's paper [0], which allows multiple self-interested LLMs bid for possible ad-spots in the prompt, which is just a different flavor of what we have today.

As noted on the thread, a good ML model can do better, with less. I can use that kind of recommendation system for discovering my alternatives for a given item/tech/whatever, on demand.

But current crop of LLMs, with a strong leaning for embedding seamless ads into prompt responses, a double no. No, because I don't agree on how training data is stol ^H^H^H^H collected from wider internet and everything, another no for unsolicited ads.

I'll continue using Kagi and being a luddite, thanks.

[0]: https://research.google/blog/mechanism-design-for-large-lang...

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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I think people made similar comments re: the advent of mobile and the internet. New technology always introduces new pitfalls. I agree that using AI as a substitute for deep thinking is an insidious problem (especially for young kids who are still learning how to think), but for those of us who use it as a thought partner - it can accelerate the tedious parts of gathering and sourcing inputs to focus on synthesizing.

One anecdote of this: in consulting, half of my brain power used to be spent on taking copious notes and organizing action items. Now tools like Granola have trivialized that process so i can focus on understanding

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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I’ve always said that we need to get out of our comfort zone, to grow. I’ve never thought it necessary to expound; it’s such a “no-brainer.” Right now, LLMs are selling a vision of “friction-free” productivity, but we haven’t yet gotten to the part, where humans start mastering LLMs as tools. That’s still quite nascent. Once that happens, a lot of people that have been firing all their employees, and getting fat on t…

Nonsense. Just hire people to automate away 100% of tasks at your company. Later, lay them off and reduce your costs to a $100/month LLM subscription.

Your prompts will be your moat and your margins will go to infinity. It will be glorious and sustainable for years to come.

- A large fraction of soon-to-be-redundant upper management, 2025.

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

#25

Related: Wolff's Law "bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads under which it is placed.If loading on a particular bone increases, the bone will remodel itself over time to become stronger to resist that sort of loading. [...] The inverse is true as well: if the loading on a bone decreases, the bone will become less dense and weaker due to the lack of the stimulus required for continued remodeling." [0] https…

Same for muscles

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what I don’t mind, are truly relevant ads. This is different from showing me (a man in my 60s) ED medicine ads, unsolicited, whenever I visit a news site. The behavior I need is typical “honest broker” behavior. These folks have been around for centuries. It’s a totally valid (and valuable) service. If I can present a specific workflow and requirements description to ChatGPT, and it responds with paid recommend…

When I think about ads, I think about Google's paper [0], which allows multiple self-interested LLMs bid for possible ad-spots in the prompt, which is just a different flavor of what we have today. As noted on the thread, a good ML model can do better, with less. I can use that kind of recommendation system for discovering my alternatives for a given item/tech/whatever, on demand. But current crop of LLMs, with a str…

I guess I should clarify that I want a broker, not unsolicited ads.

If LLMs can become true brokers, that would be great, but the pressure to corrupt would be tremendous.

Not sure if we’ll ever get there, though. I have hope. The broker model is centuries old. It’s really a solved problem. The issue is that the current generation is notoriously bad at learning from history.

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I think about ads, I think about Google's paper [0], which allows multiple self-interested LLMs bid for possible ad-spots in the prompt, which is just a different flavor of what we have today. As noted on the thread, a good ML model can do better, with less. I can use that kind of recommendation system for discovering my alternatives for a given item/tech/whatever, on demand. But current crop of LLMs, with a str…

I guess I should clarify that I want a broker , not unsolicited ads. If LLMs can become true brokers, that would be great, but the pressure to corrupt would be tremendous. Not sure if we’ll ever get there, though. I have hope. The broker model is centuries old. It’s really a solved problem. The issue is that the current generation is notoriously bad at learning from history.

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from, and I agree, LLMs can be good brokers if they can be kept reliable.

> The issue is that the current generation is notoriously bad at learning from history.

On top of that, the same people think they can just move to another planet and survive by eating money there.

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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> It is likely also going to be the biggest killer of creativity in my generation.

Such a bold and non obvious statement that the author backs up with memorizing phone numbers as a youth?

Let me fix that:

> It is likely also going to be the biggest GENERATOR of creativity in my generation.

Reason: I am creative and I use it for creative things. And I no longer have to spend my memory holding phone numbers in my head.

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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Related: Wolff's Law "bone in a healthy animal will adapt to the loads under which it is placed.If loading on a particular bone increases, the bone will remodel itself over time to become stronger to resist that sort of loading. [...] The inverse is true as well: if the loading on a bone decreases, the bone will become less dense and weaker due to the lack of the stimulus required for continued remodeling." [0] https…

Same for muscles

Same for brains

Re: Why friction is necessary for growth

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And as an extension, people who can exist in both words - leveraging AI or any other new shiny tool that will come up, and at the same time - constantly pushing themselves mentally in an old-school way regularly, will be unstoppable.

Tools are only as powerful as their operators; and to be a powerful operator, you must face friction, the often the better.

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