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What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by paulcole »

brna-2 wrote: post #18
crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

Think bigger - public spaces, streets, in general. Would be nice to solve this.

It is solved. Videos and photos are allowed in public spaces. You just don’t like the solution.

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Post by maxehmookau »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #5
maxehmookau wrote: post #2

I agree and it bugs me too. Sometimes I just want to enjoy a thing with other people enjoying a thing without any expectation that it might end up as "content" to be monetized by the algorithm. I don't look forward to mass adoption of things like Meta glasses, where even the mundane examples of _going outside_ are all content opportunities waiting to happen.

>I don't look forward to mass adoption of things like Meta glasses, where even the mundane examples of _going outside_ are all content opportunities waiting to happen. My first experience akin to this happened when I was at the grocery store during Covid. This guy stood near the checkout lines and just did a big arc with his phone filming all of us and mocking masks. Like the author of the blog sometimes I’m just lik…

Yeah, because he's right, it is a free country. He shouldn't be arrested, or thrown in prison for it.

But I'm also free to apply societal pressure to behave like a grown-up.

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Post by noeltock »

ofrzeta wrote: post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

Most of them usually are.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by crazygringo »

brna-2 wrote: post #18
crazygringo wrote: post #14

The answer seems pretty simple. Ask your teammates not to take videos, or find a different group or a different hobby. But since they genuinely enjoy posting the videos, and there's nothing wrong with that, you're probably the one who's going to have move on. You're entitled to not want videos of you taken in public places showing up online. But you're not entitled to getting that outcome.

Think bigger - public spaces, streets, in general. Would be nice to solve this.

I disagree. It wouldn't be nice to solve it, because it would mean nobody could ever take a picture of anything where there might be anyone recognizable in the background, without getting them to sign some kind of model release first.

Is that what you want? For innocent photography in public to be essentially outlawed?

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Post by Ekaros »

brna-2 wrote: post #15

Wow, such a nice idea with the purple lanyard it would be great to have something like this in general, walking down the streets someone films you and them or even YT or viewers to scan/flag the videos in question. I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie. Maybe we could also create a framework on existing legislation - design a lanyard, put a QR on it leading to a "I do not consent" site. Advertise it…

I think even better option is some type of public opt-in. Maybe purple or green screen lanyard. Publishing material of anyone without one would not be allowed.

Doesn't seem too big ask to edit out anyone who has not opted-in. Especially in age of AI that should make it trivial.

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Post by dazzawazza »

swiftcoder wrote: post #13
tiahura wrote: post #6

He acknowledges the issue in the article, but doesn’t seem to grasp it fully. Public means not private. What you do in public is not private. In presumptive free societies, when in public, one is allowed to notice what others are doing in public. Secret is the opposite of public. The paranoia around being seen feels a lot like the other reptile-brain based phobias like fear of poisoning with vaccines.

"noticing" is not the same as "permanently documenting and broadcasting to the internet". Used to be one needed to get signed photo releases from passerbys who appeared in your shots...

yep, it's the permanent nature of the recording put in to the public sphere that is the game changer for me.

I accept I am visible in public to all who share a space but I do not accept that the ephemeral nature of my existence in that space should be violated.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by brna-2 »

paulcole wrote: post #19
brna-2 wrote: post #15

Wow, such a nice idea with the purple lanyard it would be great to have something like this in general, walking down the streets someone films you and them or even YT or viewers to scan/flag the videos in question. I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie. Maybe we could also create a framework on existing legislation - design a lanyard, put a QR on it leading to a "I do not consent" site. Advertise it…

> I guess EU could put forth such regulation - no biggie Yes! Another EU regulation will solve this right quick.

Well, actually this could be just a means of letting people know your preference without direct communication. Maybe it could fall under existing GDPR regulation, as an extended part about a public "non consent" marker.

How would you solve the problem in large scale, low effort way?

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by eterm »

I wonder if it's a generational or cultural difference present in the comments here.

I am sympathetic to the author, and I also find video a bit invasive of privacy in a way that photos aren't.

I therefore find the (obviously common) attitude that videos are just "something you need to accept" quite alien, but I wonder how much of that attitude is just comments coming from a younger generation that have grown up with the idea that they're recorded all the time.

I'm old enough thankfully to have grown up without video being present, that's probably not true for someone 10 years younger than me.

There's also a big difference in my mind between, "You might be filmed on occassion" and, "A recording of this goes up on youtube every single week".

With the former you can still reasonably anonymous, with the latter you risk becoming a side character in someone elses' parasocial relationship.

Re: What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?

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Post by lm28469 »

ofrzeta wrote: post #9

Maybe off-topic and patronizing .. sorry about that. "Running around in the woods, firing small plastic pellets at other people, in pursuit of a contrived-to-be-fun mission, turns out to be, well, fun." I was wondering if there are no biodegradable bullets for Airsoft and found out that they exist. Maybe a better solution than plastic in the woods.

They make PLA ones, advertised as biodegradable, but AFAIK the settings for them to biodegrade never happen in nature, it's ever so slightly better than the alternatives but far from perfect, or even good.

https://www.filamentive.com/the-truth-about-the-biodegradabi...

> PLA is only biodegradable under industrial composting conditions and anaerobic digestion – there is no evidence of PLA being biodegradable in soil, home compost or landfill environment.

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