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A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by krackers »

jongjong wrote: post #5

This makes sense. I do feel like intelligence has hard limits. Maybe knowledge doesn't have limits but intelligence definitely feels like it has limits. If you consider IQ tests, a lot of it is about seeing a sequence and seeing all possible patterns and then figuring out which one is the most certain/obvious based on the limited sample given. One could imagine all sorts of complex patterns beyond the 'correct answer…

If you believe in the intelligence -> compression thing, then the hard limit would be the komologorov complexity.

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by ok_dad »

ACCount37 wrote: post #4
mikert89 wrote: post #2

Pretty clear theres a tradeoff between social intelligence and other forms of intelligence

Is there now? High functioning autism exists, but autism in general doesn't seem to give any advantage to general intelligence. And the low end of functioning in autism is really, really low.

The spectrum doesn’t work that way, it’s more like a grab bag of traits than a “low to high” thing. High functioning is often just a way to dismiss the needs for certain autistic individuals who can mask very well.

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Post by ok_dad »

userbinator wrote: post #10
mikert89 wrote: post #2

Pretty clear theres a tradeoff between social intelligence and other forms of intelligence

Or "there's a fine line between genius and insanity".

It’s kind of rude to equate autism with “insanity”, but I understand you probably didn’t mean it that way.

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by mrkstu »

My father’s (extended) side of the family seems to have once a generation severe autistic case and many of us less severely on the spectrum. Doesn’t seem to exist on my mother’s side with any regularity with similar cohort sizes.

Lots of PhDs and other left brain super functionals on that side that seems to correlate to intellectual attainment as well.

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by FigurativeVoid »

mrkstu wrote: post #24

My father’s (extended) side of the family seems to have once a generation severe autistic case and many of us less severely on the spectrum. Doesn’t seem to exist on my mother’s side with any regularity with similar cohort sizes. Lots of PhDs and other left brain super functionals on that side that seems to correlate to intellectual attainment as well.

On which side?

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by bigfatkitten »

ok_dad wrote: post #22
ACCount37 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there now? High functioning autism exists, but autism in general doesn't seem to give any advantage to general intelligence. And the low end of functioning in autism is really, really low.

The spectrum doesn’t work that way, it’s more like a grab bag of traits than a “low to high” thing. High functioning is often just a way to dismiss the needs for certain autistic individuals who can mask very well.

And for girls in particular, who go mostly undiagnosed because they tend to present very differently to boys.

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by petermcneeley »

What if it is more like Vegeta's super saiyan 2. A false super saiyan 2 form. Just like the real SS2 maintains both power and agility the real Übermensch will attain new levels of IQ while maintaining if not advancing a strong EQ.

https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Second_Grade

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by mrkstu »

FigurativeVoid wrote: post #25
mrkstu wrote: post #24

My father’s (extended) side of the family seems to have once a generation severe autistic case and many of us less severely on the spectrum. Doesn’t seem to exist on my mother’s side with any regularity with similar cohort sizes. Lots of PhDs and other left brain super functionals on that side that seems to correlate to intellectual attainment as well.

On which side?

Father’s.

Re: A human-accelerated neuron type potentially underlying autism in humans

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Post by spookie »

dyauspitr wrote: post #9
mikert89 wrote: post #2

Pretty clear theres a tradeoff between social intelligence and other forms of intelligence

Einstein seemed to have absolutely no problems with his social life. Newton on the other hand lived and died alone, possibly a virgin.

If anything, Newton was very well connected with other people and had extensive collaborations with them. He was very much social.

The fact he may have died a virgin says nothing about his social capabilities.

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