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Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

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Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#21

It's unfortunate that the whole world is becoming more and more closed off. It feels like eventually we are all going to be locked into the country of our birth, with no hope of traveling somewhere else for a better life.

How is this “more closed off” non Americans traveling to us have gotten their fingerprints scanned for more than a decade?

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#22
post #8

Ugh. I guess this is part of the normalization of surveillance in the Europe with chat control and everything else.

Every single comment: What do you mean, it's totally normal to require fingerprint scanning for travel purposes!

It's been normal for Europeans entering the US for a few years now. It was about time for it to become reciprocal.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#23
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the idea with a lot of immigration policy. Strange this one wasn't already reciprocal. Whoever originally designed it felt that Europe needed American visitors more than vice versa, but now, that's not the case.

Or that Europe should treat foreigners nicely.

What is “not nice” about having to provide your fingerprints? Genuinely asking.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#24

It's unfortunate that the whole world is becoming more and more closed off. It feels like eventually we are all going to be locked into the country of our birth, with no hope of traveling somewhere else for a better life.

How is this “more closed off” non Americans traveling to us have gotten their fingerprints scanned for more than a decade?

It's all part of the same trend.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#26
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every single comment: What do you mean, it's totally normal to require fingerprint scanning for travel purposes!

It's been normal for Europeans entering the US for a few years now. It was about time for it to become reciprocal.

I wish (and have wished since US-VISIT started) that Europeans would instead have persuaded the U.S. to stop doing it, instead of copying the U.S. or reciprocating.

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#27
Yes, we know the U.S. has done this since 2004 (and so have several other countries, especially in Asia). There's nowhere that I know of that has an organized lobby for foreigners' rights. If there were, I would join it.

(I mean, Ed Hasbrouck has been campaigning against travel surveillance and heightened use of ID for many years, so we have, like, one person!)

One problem is that when governments get together to talk about data and travel, they mostly end up negotiating ways to collect and exchange more data about travelers!

Re: Americans traveling to Europe will have fingerprints scanned under new rule

#28
post #10
post #6

My husband, a German, has been putting his fingers on the scanners when coming in to visit my family for nearly two decades - turnabout is fair play, I suppose...

That's the idea with a lot of immigration policy. Strange this one wasn't already reciprocal. Whoever originally designed it felt that Europe needed American visitors more than vice versa, but now, that's not the case.

> Strange this one wasn't already reciprocal.

I don't think "back at ya" is the goal here. There are many practical and good reasons to have fingerprints of people entering/trying to enter your country. Most are the same reasons that you have to give fingerprints in domestic situations.

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