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Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

You can probably infer some from their Ory case study: https://www.ory.sh/case-studies/openai

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

I don’t know the story, but I’m not surprised. I led an effort to switch my company to Auth0 recently and they’re… bad. They have very poor support for anything even barely outside of normal, and when things are working correctly they not very good. But when you have a requirement to move to a third party SaaS service, I suppose Auth0 is maybe the best of a bad bunch.

Same, I felt like I was writing my own auth. They don’t seem to understand that we’re trying to get away from the complexity of auth. I’ve talked with their sales people but may as well be talking to a wall.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

while i agree, in this case at least it looks like the money raised is for a future SaaS auth solution built on top of the open-source project

Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

> I’ve seen this game plan often enough.

I probably haven't been around as long as you. Could you provide an example of one that comes to mind?

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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post #15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

while i agree, in this case at least it looks like the money raised is for a future SaaS auth solution built on top of the open-source project

Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

We all know how this ends. The open source project ends up being crippled to the point it's no longer useful.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#25
post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

I don’t know the story, but I’m not surprised. I led an effort to switch my company to Auth0 recently and they’re… bad. They have very poor support for anything even barely outside of normal, and when things are working correctly they not very good. But when you have a requirement to move to a third party SaaS service, I suppose Auth0 is maybe the best of a bad bunch.

I interviewed for an SRE position at Auth0 years ago. My interviewer told me it was all held together by duct tape and prayers. I'm glad I didn't end up taking that position.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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only in javascript where auth is such a big issue. in rails you can use the rails 8 auth or a better alternative authentication-zero. before it was devise. java - spring security, shiro etc. but just complex things. alternatively - use services like fusionAuth

Why is auth "such a big issue" in JS? I've used a number of solutions but haven't had big issues with them.

Same. I've personally never had issues with any auth packages, granted I've never used auth0. Personally, they all seem quite similar, especially in the react world.

Anything that can help me utilize oauth standards is fine to me.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

I don’t know the story, but I’m not surprised. I led an effort to switch my company to Auth0 recently and they’re… bad. They have very poor support for anything even barely outside of normal, and when things are working correctly they not very good. But when you have a requirement to move to a third party SaaS service, I suppose Auth0 is maybe the best of a bad bunch.

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Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

#29
post #11

> Chances are, if you’ve used ChatGPT, Google Labs, Cal.com or a million other websites, you’ve already interacted with Auth.js. I missed OpenAI migrating away from auth0. They must have been one of their largest customers - anybody know the story?

I don’t know the story, but I’m not surprised. I led an effort to switch my company to Auth0 recently and they’re… bad. They have very poor support for anything even barely outside of normal, and when things are working correctly they not very good. But when you have a requirement to move to a third party SaaS service, I suppose Auth0 is maybe the best of a bad bunch.

Auth0 went downhill after being acquired by Okta.

Re: Auth.js is now part of Better Auth

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which will invariably lead to that open source project to become less and less useful if implemented separately from the SaaS platform. I’ve seen this game plan often enough. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

> I’ve seen this game plan often enough. I probably haven't been around as long as you. Could you provide an example of one that comes to mind?

Elasticsearch

Redis

Mongo

Bitnami

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