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Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by jsheard »

prasoon2211 wrote: post #10
bluehatbrit wrote: post #7

Token based pricing generally makes a lot of sense for companies like Zed, but it sure does suck for forecasting spend. Usage pricing on something like aws is pretty easy to figure out. You know what you're going to use, so you just do some simple arithmetic and you've got a pretty accurate idea. Even with serverless it's pretty easy. Tokens are so much harder, especially when using it in a development setting. It's…

This is partially why, at least for LLM-assisted coding workloads, orgs are going with the $200 / mo Claude Code plans and similar.

Until the rug inevitably gets pulled on those as well. It's not in your interest buy a $200/mo subscription unless you use >$200 of tokens per month, and long term it's not in their interest to sell you >$200 of tokens for a flat $200.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by morgankrey »

genshii wrote: post #20

I'm personally looking forward to this change because I currently pay $20/month just to get edit prediction. I use Claude Code in my terminal for everything else. I do wish I could just pay for edit prediction at an even lower price, but I can understand why that's not an option. I'm curious if they have plans to improve edit prediction though. It's honestly kind of garbage compared to Cursor, and I don't think I'm b…

We have a significant investment underway in edit predictions. We hear you, more soon.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by jsheard »

morgankrey wrote: post #13
binwang wrote: post #5

Now I see little value in subscribing to Zed Pro compared to just bringing my own API key. Am I missing something?

(I work at Zed) No, you aren't. We care about you using Zed the editor, and we provide Zed Pro for folks who decide they'd like to support Zed or our billing model works for them. But it's simply an option, not our core business plan, and this pricing is in place to make that option financially viable for us. As long as we don't bear the cost, we don't feel the need (or the right) to put ourselves in the revenue path…

> [Zed Pro is] not our core business plan

What is the core business plan then?

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by genshii »

morgankrey wrote: post #22
genshii wrote: post #20

I'm personally looking forward to this change because I currently pay $20/month just to get edit prediction. I use Claude Code in my terminal for everything else. I do wish I could just pay for edit prediction at an even lower price, but I can understand why that's not an option. I'm curious if they have plans to improve edit prediction though. It's honestly kind of garbage compared to Cursor, and I don't think I'm b…

We have a significant investment underway in edit predictions. We hear you, more soon.

That's great to hear, thanks!

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #3

How much are companies spending per developer on tokens? From what I read it seems like it might be quite high at $1,000 or more per day?

No, not at all! At my org it's around $7000 a month for the entire org - my personal usage is around $2-10 a day. Usually less than the price of my caffeinated beverages.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by maxbond »

morgankrey wrote: post #13
binwang wrote: post #5

Now I see little value in subscribing to Zed Pro compared to just bringing my own API key. Am I missing something?

(I work at Zed) No, you aren't. We care about you using Zed the editor, and we provide Zed Pro for folks who decide they'd like to support Zed or our billing model works for them. But it's simply an option, not our core business plan, and this pricing is in place to make that option financially viable for us. As long as we don't bear the cost, we don't feel the need (or the right) to put ourselves in the revenue path…

Will you consider providing a feature to protect me from accidentally using my Zed account after the $5 is exhausted (or else a plan that only includes edit predictions)? I can't justify to myself continuing my subscription if there's a risk I will click the wrong button with identical text to the right button, and get charged an additional 10% for it. I get you need to be compensated for risk if you pay up front on my behalf, but I don't need you to do that.

I understand that there's nothing you could do to protect me if I make a prompt that ends up using >$5 of usage but after that I would like Zed to reject anything except my personal API keys.

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by morgankrey »

jsheard wrote: post #23
morgankrey wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I work at Zed) No, you aren't. We care about you using Zed the editor, and we provide Zed Pro for folks who decide they'd like to support Zed or our billing model works for them. But it's simply an option, not our core business plan, and this pricing is in place to make that option financially viable for us. As long as we don't bear the cost, we don't feel the need (or the right) to put ourselves in the revenue path…

> [Zed Pro is] not our core business plan What is the core business plan then?

https://zed.dev/blog/sequoia-backs-zed#introducing-deltadb-o...

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by morgankrey »

maxbond wrote: post #26
morgankrey wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I work at Zed) No, you aren't. We care about you using Zed the editor, and we provide Zed Pro for folks who decide they'd like to support Zed or our billing model works for them. But it's simply an option, not our core business plan, and this pricing is in place to make that option financially viable for us. As long as we don't bear the cost, we don't feel the need (or the right) to put ourselves in the revenue path…

Will you consider providing a feature to protect me from accidentally using my Zed account after the $5 is exhausted (or else a plan that only includes edit predictions)? I can't justify to myself continuing my subscription if there's a risk I will click the wrong button with identical text to the right button, and get charged an additional 10% for it. I get you need to be compensated for risk if you pay up front on…

Yep, you can set your spend limit to $0 and it will block any spend beyond your $10 per month for the subscription

https://zed.dev/docs/ai/plans-and-usage#usage-spend-limits

Re: Zed's Pricing Has Changed: LLM Usage Is Now Token-Based

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Post by maxbond »

morgankrey wrote: post #29
maxbond wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Will you consider providing a feature to protect me from accidentally using my Zed account after the $5 is exhausted (or else a plan that only includes edit predictions)? I can't justify to myself continuing my subscription if there's a risk I will click the wrong button with identical text to the right button, and get charged an additional 10% for it. I get you need to be compensated for risk if you pay up front on…

Yep, you can set your spend limit to $0 and it will block any spend beyond your $10 per month for the subscription https://zed.dev/docs/ai/plans-and-usage#usage-spend-limits

Excellent. Thanks.
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