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EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by amelius »

qiine wrote: post #7
bilekas wrote: post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

This read more like "we thought pc was a dead relic of the past" sadly

I think it's more that smartphones have built in security measures that prevent hacking. It already works for bank apps, so why not use it for government stuff too?

It sucks, yes, but that's probably how these people think.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by snickerdoodle14 »

Aaargh20318 wrote: post #11
Luker88 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> oes that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications'...? No. It's still required by law, which means that your desktop application will require some interaction with your smartphone.

The wallet app can be started using a QR code. You can then finish the verification on your phone and continue on the desktop website/app/whatever.

How can I do this when I don't have a phone?

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by Sharlin »

mono442 wrote: post #16
elric wrote: post #13

Along with chat control, it really seems like the EU is pushing a dystopian digital agenda.

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Suuure, if the USSR had been a deeply neoliberal market economy. Something tells me you don't know anything about either the EU or the USSR.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by brookst »

baq wrote: post #5

This is hardware attestation in a nutshell: a double edged sword, and a sharp one at that. The biggest issue is that the attestation hardware and the application client is the same device with the same manufacturer, who also happens to have a slight conflict of interest between monetizing customers and preserving any sort of privacy. IMHO the pro-attestation forces are so overwhelming that we should all cherish the m…

How does private access token (PAT) compromise privacy in the name of monetization?

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Post by k0tan32 »

miroljub wrote: post #20
elric wrote: post #13

Along with chat control, it really seems like the EU is pushing a dystopian digital agenda.

It's time to rush to Russia, while we still can. If they accept us, of course. Not everyone is Snowden.

Did you forget the "\s" marker?

Russia is a one way step ahead here, with mandatory pre-installed apps, full-scale internet censorship (still catching up with China, though), mandatory DPI, etc.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by mrtksn »

bilekas wrote: post #3

This is a great example of how this whole requirement hasn't been properly thought out. > Desktop support is not currently within the project's scope. What I would like to take from this is that, by their own definition, desktop apps are out of scope for Age Verification. So does that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications' instead of everything being a web service ? One can dream perhaps. Until then…

App not available doesn't mean age verification not required. You can be required to confirm your account from your mobile phone or scan some QR code on mobile that will take you to age verification session and once completed you can continue from the desktop.

I mean, otherwise would be like not being bound to speed limits if you don't have a speedometer.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by nehal3m »

cenamus wrote: post #10
Luker88 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> oes that mean we will see a return of the 'desktop applications'...? No. It's still required by law, which means that your desktop application will require some interaction with your smartphone.

Further forcing everybody to have their phone on person at all times

And as a prerequisite enforcing dependency on titanic (and in my case foreign) tech companies that are free to unilaterally ban you from communicating with your government. This is a BAD idea.

Re: EU age verification app not planning desktop support

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Post by hhh »

pjmlp wrote: post #19
nickslaughter02 wrote: post #12

Do you want desktop PC vendors locking down hardware to enforce integrity?

Want do you think Windows 11, latest macOS, ChromeOS hardware requirements are all about? CoPilot+ PCs even require the same security chip as XBox and Azure Sphere IoT board (Pluton), in addition to TPM 2.0. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/hardware-...

Well, yeah. There’s no way to curb the modern cheating epidemic without increasing security measures. Riot Games via Valorant truly pushed the industry so far ahead by reducing their cheating percentages so low that the cost to cheat for more than a few weeks at a time is thousands of dollars a month.

It’s not the sole reason, but it’s a solid one.

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