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Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by jychang »

deepdarkforest wrote: post #8

The Chinese are doing what they have been doing to the manufacturing industry as well. Take the core technology and just optimize, optimize, optimize for 10x the cost/efficiency. As simple as that. Super impressive. These models might be bechmaxxed but as another comment said, i see so many that it might as well be the most impressive benchmaxxing today, if not just a genuinely SOTA open source model. They even relea…

They still suck at explaining which model they serve is which, though.

They also released today Qwen3-VL Plus [1] today alongside Qwen3-VL 235B [2] and they don't tell us which one is better. Note that Qwen3-VL-Plus is a very different model compared to Qwen-VL-Plus.

Also, qwen-plus-2025-09-11 [3] vs qwen3-235b-a22b-instruct-2507 [4]. What's the difference? Which one is better? Who knows.

You know it's bad when OpenAI has a more clear naming scheme.

[1] https://modelstudio.console.alibabacloud.com/?tab=doc#/doc/?...

[2] https://modelstudio.console.alibabacloud.com/?tab=doc#/doc/?...

[3] https://modelstudio.console.alibabacloud.com/?tab=doc#/doc/?...

[4] https://modelstudio.console.alibabacloud.com/?tab=doc#/doc/?...

Re: Qwen3-VL

#23

Post by richardlblair »

As I mentioned yesterday - I recently needed to process hundreds of low quality images of invoices (for a construction project). I had a script that had used pil/opencv, pytesseract, and open ai as a fallback. It still has a staggering number of failures.

Today I tried a handful of the really poor quality invoices and Qwen spat out all the information I needed without an issue. What's crazier is it gave me the bounding boxes to improve tesseract.

Re: Qwen3-VL

#24

Post by binary132 »

brokencode wrote: post #18
swyx wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so.. why do you think they are trying this hard to win your heart?

Maybe they just want to see one of the biggest stock bubble pops of all time in the US.

Surprising this is the first time I’ve seen anyone say this out loud.

Re: Qwen3-VL

#25

Post by deepdarkforest »

jychang wrote: post #21
deepdarkforest wrote: post #8

The Chinese are doing what they have been doing to the manufacturing industry as well. Take the core technology and just optimize, optimize, optimize for 10x the cost/efficiency. As simple as that. Super impressive. These models might be bechmaxxed but as another comment said, i see so many that it might as well be the most impressive benchmaxxing today, if not just a genuinely SOTA open source model. They even relea…

They still suck at explaining which model they serve is which, though. They also released today Qwen3-VL Plus [1] today alongside Qwen3-VL 235B [2] and they don't tell us which one is better. Note that Qwen3-VL-Plus is a very different model compared to Qwen-VL-Plus. Also, qwen-plus-2025-09-11 [3] vs qwen3-235b-a22b-instruct-2507 [4]. What's the difference? Which one is better? Who knows. You know it's bad when OpenA…

Eh i mean often innovation is made just by letting a lot of fragmented, small teams of cracked nerds trying out stuff. It's way too early in the game. I mean, qwens release statements have anime etc. IBM, Bell, Google, Dell, many did it similarly, letting small focused teams having many attempts at cracking the same problem. All modern quant firms are doing basically the same as well. Anthropic is actually an exception, more like Apple.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by VladVladikoff »

richardlblair wrote: post #23

As I mentioned yesterday - I recently needed to process hundreds of low quality images of invoices (for a construction project). I had a script that had used pil/opencv, pytesseract, and open ai as a fallback. It still has a staggering number of failures. Today I tried a handful of the really poor quality invoices and Qwen spat out all the information I needed without an issue. What's crazier is it gave me the boundi…

Interesting. I have in the past tried to get bounding boxes of property boundaries on satellite maps estimated by VLLM models but had no success. Do you have any tips on how to improve the results?

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by mh- »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #26
richardlblair wrote: post #23

As I mentioned yesterday - I recently needed to process hundreds of low quality images of invoices (for a construction project). I had a script that had used pil/opencv, pytesseract, and open ai as a fallback. It still has a staggering number of failures. Today I tried a handful of the really poor quality invoices and Qwen spat out all the information I needed without an issue. What's crazier is it gave me the boundi…

Interesting. I have in the past tried to get bounding boxes of property boundaries on satellite maps estimated by VLLM models but had no success. Do you have any tips on how to improve the results?

Do you have some example images and the prompt you tried?

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by richardlblair »

VladVladikoff wrote: post #26
richardlblair wrote: post #23

As I mentioned yesterday - I recently needed to process hundreds of low quality images of invoices (for a construction project). I had a script that had used pil/opencv, pytesseract, and open ai as a fallback. It still has a staggering number of failures. Today I tried a handful of the really poor quality invoices and Qwen spat out all the information I needed without an issue. What's crazier is it gave me the boundi…

Interesting. I have in the past tried to get bounding boxes of property boundaries on satellite maps estimated by VLLM models but had no success. Do you have any tips on how to improve the results?

With Qwen I went as stupid as I could: please provide the bounding box metadata for pytesseract for the above image.

And it spat it out.

Re: Qwen3-VL

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Post by mountainriver »

Incredible release! Qwen has been leading the open source vision models for a while now. Releasing a really big model is amazing for a lot of use cases.

I would love to see a comparison to the latest GLM model. I would also love to see no one use OS World ever again, it’s a deeply flawed benchmark.

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