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Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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I have a "smart" tcl tv I bought during a sale. The only thing it costs me is that it takes somewhat longer to turn on than my "dumb" dell monitor. It's not connected to the internet, it doesn't show me any ads. When I (rarely) turn it on with its remote it boots to the last used input. If I turn it on through my set-top box, it boots to the box's input. The box can control the TV's sound volume with its own remote,…

I do something similar with an LG TV, but my point was you don't really have many good options if you want a TV that doesn't at least try to track you and the average consumer doesn't really know it's happening nor how to avoid it. Also, using a set top box on an external input is not free from tracking as most smart TVs use screengrabs and automatic content identification to figure out what you're watching even then…

Fun fact: I actually tried to connect to the internet when I got it. This, of course, prompted it to show me a bunch of ads on the "home screen". This didn't really stop me, after all, I never look at that page and it has direct access to what I watch (broadcast TV and Prime).

But the prime experience was so horrendous, everything lagged like hell that I just couldn't keep using it. So I went ahead and did a full reset, which got rid of the ads, and I connected my ISP's provided box. I didn't try the broadcast tv performance, since I didn't have an antenna cable on hand.

Now, I don't know about other markets, but here in France basically everybody gets their provider's box, even if it's only for public TV. It gets you nice affordances such as a generally better picture and the ability to pause/get back in time. Those boxen usually come with the usual streaming clients, too.

So basically, there's no need to connect your TV directly, even if you're not paranoid.

Sure, the TV can do its screen grabbing, but since it isn't connected to anything, the only possible issue is for its buffer to fill up and somehow break. This hasn't happened yet on my specific TCL.

However, I do realize that my ISP can also know what I'm watching and sell this information to "partners". I've yet to see any ads on their box, but I wouldn't bet the house this will never change. So I agree with your last point, this will probably continue going downhill until we either see the public waking up (on which I don't count at all) or some regulatory action (which seems somewhat non-nil, especially here in the EU – but they seem to have bigger fish to fry, such as listening in on my chats themselves).

Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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The idea of it is incredibly appealing to the DevOps and Automation guy living inside me. The idea that I could scan groceries as I use them up and build a live shopping list, I can just push button send... sounds super cool to me. However, the Security guy that lives in me knows the reality is I am just installing barely functional spyware.

Just have a look into fridges of other people - absolute mess usually very tightly stacked. There is no way for some camera to even guess what "food" is it looking at let alone if it past the expiry date.

I was more thinking of an external barcode reader, scan and toss.

Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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1. Why would you buy a smart fridge in the first place? 2. Why would you connect a fridge to the internet? You are visiting fridge several times a day....

Think of it as a smart display (reminders, lists, timers, cooking videos, etc) that’s located on one of the most physically and visually accessible area of the kitchen, without taking up any countertop space, and it makes more sense. The fridge is a convenient stand more than anything.

My phone doesn't take up counter space and does everything you just mentioned.

Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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I don't think I'll ever understand why people buy such "smart" appliances. There's little value in it for the purchaser, and they come with a heavy price in terms of privacy and annoyance.

The idea of it is incredibly appealing to the DevOps and Automation guy living inside me. The idea that I could scan groceries as I use them up and build a live shopping list, I can just push button send... sounds super cool to me. However, the Security guy that lives in me knows the reality is I am just installing barely functional spyware.

> scan groceries as I use them up and build a live shopping list

You eat the same thing every day?

Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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Less so for fridges, but in the TV space there are few alternatives. You can get a more expensive commercial display or maybe a projector, but most people don't even consider those options and the price is a lot higher. If you go to your local retailer, practically every TV on sale is likely going to have intrusive tracking and advertisements across all price points and mainstream manufacturers. I expect a lot of man…

> in the TV space there are few alternatives. This is true, which is why when my old, non-spying one breaks, I won't replace it.

Specially in the high end, you want oled or high refresh rates? You have to buy a "smart tv" that requieres internet to setup, even if you plan use it only with an HDMI device.

I miss old dumb tvs

Re: Samsung smart fridge displaying advertisements

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Think of it as a smart display (reminders, lists, timers, cooking videos, etc) that’s located on one of the most physically and visually accessible area of the kitchen, without taking up any countertop space, and it makes more sense. The fridge is a convenient stand more than anything.

My phone doesn't take up counter space and does everything you just mentioned.

Sure. I assume you don't have a TV, digital picture frames, or anything like that. That's fine. Some people like bigger, fixed, screens.
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