Mother of All Demos (1968)

Post by MisterTea » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 4:10 PM UTC

VonGuard wrote: post #19

ux266478 wrote: post #2

People talk about Apple stealing from Xerox, but what you may not know is that Douglas Engelbart's team at SRI left shortly after this demo and took everything to Xerox without him. The man spent the rest of his career being swept into gutters, never got any recognition until the early 2000s at the very end of his life. It's a really tragic tale.

Well, sort of. I mean, yeah he deserved to be praised, but the reason half the SRI staff left to go to Xerox is that Engelbart and his people were becoming obsessed with EST training. EST is basically a cult that starves you, insults you until you cry, then builds you back up with compliments while asking you to pay up front for the next sucker in your family to take the "training." It's about as close as you can get…

Post by jacquesm » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 4:22 PM UTC

ux266478 wrote: post #15

jacquesm wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's factually incorrect. Engelbart was recognized as the man that started it all by plenty of people in the industry, to the point the Logitech (a Swiss company, go figure) allocated him a an office for his Bootstrap Institute just because they thought it was the right thing to do. https://www.technologyreview.com/2013/07/23/177246/douglas-e... Anybody in the industry knows who Engelbart is and his name recognitio…

Interesting, that much isn't common knowledge. I was only aware of the struggles he had at Time Share and later obscure research foundations. It's good to know his name mattered in important places, that kind of stuff often doesn't filter down to us on the outside.

Post by jacquesm » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 4:27 PM UTC

thekuanysh wrote: post #14

tolerance wrote: post #13

I wish that this wasn’t a LLM-generated summary of a YouTube video. I wish that this was a personal website and the content was handwritten. That the voice and insight was yours . Reading LLM-generated prose is like reading an obituary. The name appropriately describes the content. The font weight for the table of contents doesn’t appear to sufficiently increase to indicate the user’s place on the page.

All important points, thanks for the feedback! I'll update UI for the table of contents in a moment. As for LLMs, my vision for Wordspike’s not to replace human voice, but to act as a filter. It's an add-on to see what video content is valuable to watch in full. It's my attempt to built a counter-weight to the endless amount of shorts and slop I see online.

Post by thekuanysh » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 4:29 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #26

thekuanysh wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All important points, thanks for the feedback! I'll update UI for the table of contents in a moment. As for LLMs, my vision for Wordspike’s not to replace human voice, but to act as a filter. It's an add-on to see what video content is valuable to watch in full. It's my attempt to built a counter-weight to the endless amount of shorts and slop I see online.

So, let me get this straight: your attempt at reducing the amount of slop you see is to produce more slop?

Post by IncreasePosts » Tue, Sep 16, 2025, 4:44 PM UTC

tolerance wrote: post #13

I wish that this wasn’t a LLM-generated summary of a YouTube video. I wish that this was a personal website and the content was handwritten. That the voice and insight was yours . Reading LLM-generated prose is like reading an obituary. The name appropriately describes the content. The font weight for the table of contents doesn’t appear to sufficiently increase to indicate the user’s place on the page.