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Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by teitoklien »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #19
faangguyindia wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is when AGI comes into existence and breaks out of labs to become our masters. Those who opposed AI adoption will be the first who will be sent to labor camps. I want to be in good books of AGI masters, so i am helping apply AI everywhere.

> Those who opposed AI adoption will be the first who will be sent to labor camps. I know you're joking, but other people are serious about this. Why do they think that an AGI will be vengeful? So strange.

The desire to become superbeing entity cannot be separated from supremacist ideals

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by simonw »

blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

They seem to still be allowing Google to crawl them, unsurprisingly.

Advantage Gemini.

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by klysm »

blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

And this is stopping who exactly?

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Post by strangattractor »

Lerc wrote: post #10
furyofantares wrote: post #6

I think this is a serious issue, but I gotta say > one of the most basic tasks: distinguishing facts from falsehoods I do not think that is a basic task!

It is definitely not a basic task. A lot of humans have trouble with it. It is one of the areas that I think AI can overtake human ability, given time.

Question

Let's just assume that AI works in some fundamental way similar to human intelligence works. Would it be likely that the AI would suffer from some of the same problems as people? Hallucinations, Obsequiousness etc

IMO One of the computer's characteristics that make it useful is that it doesn't suffer from human behavior anomalies. I would also say that differentiating truthiness from falseness is pretty fundamental to being good/expert at most anything.

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by jrflowers »

simonw wrote: post #15

I'm a bit suspicious of this report - they don't reveal nearly enough about their methodology for me to evaluate how credible this is. When it says "The 10 leading AI tools repeated false information on topics in the news more than one third of the time — 35 percent — in August 2025, up from 18 percent in August 2024" - 35% of what ? Their previous 2024 report refused to even distinguish between different tools - mix…

>35% of what?

Well it says 35% of the time so I would guess that they’re talking about the number of incidents in a given time frame.

For example if you asked me what color the sky is ten times and I said “carrot” four times, you could say that my answer is “carrot” 40% of the time

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by simianwords »

blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

This is also for real time "grounding". So it makes it even harder for AI to give factual answers.

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Post by strangattractor »

simonw wrote: post #22
blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

They seem to still be allowing Google to crawl them, unsurprisingly. Advantage Gemini.

The Google advantage is that you need to show up in their search results or else you are a nobody.

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by simianwords »

Why does this post not take into account the other side of it? AI has helped me become more grounded and correct in a lot of areas. Intricate questions are now easily answered in ChatGPT.

Not only that - grok use in twitter works surprisingly well. Can some one really quantify the effect it has had in countering fake news?

It is now way harder to spread fake news on X because a simple grok tag can counter it.

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by vict7 »

faangguyindia wrote: post #17
blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

My take is when AGI comes into existence and breaks out of labs to become our masters. Those who opposed AI adoption will be the first who will be sent to labor camps. I want to be in good books of AGI masters, so i am helping apply AI everywhere.

AKA Roko’s Basilisk

Re: AI False information rate for news nearly doubles in one year

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Post by Analemma_ »

faangguyindia wrote: post #17
blibble wrote: post #5

every major news org now blocks the parasitic "AI" crawlers examples: https://www.bbc.co.uk/robots.txt https://www.cnn.com/robots.txt https://www.nbcnews.com/robots.txt all they will be training on now is spam anyone that says "AI is the worst today it will ever be", no because that was before the world reacted to it

My take is when AGI comes into existence and breaks out of labs to become our masters. Those who opposed AI adoption will be the first who will be sent to labor camps. I want to be in good books of AGI masters, so i am helping apply AI everywhere.

This is pretty much word-for-word the reasoning behind Roko’s basilisk, which made its proponents an internet laughingstock for a decade, but is a surprisingly tricky thing to actually refute if you accept the premise that AGI is in fact coming.
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