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Re: Read to forget

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post #17

Reminds me of the purported Ralph Waldo Emerson quote which rings true for myself as well: “I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”

Such statements are profound and vacuous, vapid because it holds for many other areas.

I cannot remember all the naughty movies I have seen even though they made me ......

Re: Read to forget

#22
I disagree with the author at a surface level; we can retain much more than 90% of what we read. The curious can look up deep reading strategies, e.g., those summarized by Benjamin Keep.

At a deeper level, though, there’s truth that we have limited time here; we can’t read everything.

Re: Read to forget

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I do this but annotate books heavily by writing in the margins (digitally through my remarkable) and only very rarely ever revisit them. Writing while reading is a way of focusing on what either resonates with me or confounds me.

I look out for books that have been annotated by one of your kin whenever I'm in a used book store. It's fun to see what other people think is interesting or memorable (or unhinged... Why are you highlighting every occurance of the word "earth"?)

Little notes in the margin can also be a fun plot device, used to great effect in one of the Harry Potter books, (I think?) The Chamber of Secrets.

Re: Read to forget

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post #17

Reminds me of the purported Ralph Waldo Emerson quote which rings true for myself as well: “I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”

Such statements are profound and vacuous, vapid because it holds for many other areas. I cannot remember all the naughty movies I have seen even though they made me ......

Why would wide applicability be a mark against an idea? Do you feel the same way about gravity and normal distributions?

Your example is an excellent one though because it shows a corollary to the way that quote was intended in this conversation.

How it was meant: "It's OK to not remember everything you've read verbatim, because the important parts mixed into who you are/were."

Your corollary: "We must be careful about what we consume because it will be mixed into who you are."

Re: Read to forget

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post #17

Reminds me of the purported Ralph Waldo Emerson quote which rings true for myself as well: “I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”

Such statements are profound and vacuous, vapid because it holds for many other areas. I cannot remember all the naughty movies I have seen even though they made me ......

Generations hence, I see a future where school children are taught their lessons:

“Now that we’ve studied the classic American authors, like Emerson, let’s learn about the next generation. Their leading light was cantor_S_drug, who brilliantly updated a classic author with modern sensibilities. Just look at those double ellipses — truly a poetic legend.”

Re: Read to forget

#26
post #7

It’s a fine perspective, but: > We can only read a text once Is clearly false. OP is expressing a choice, not a truth.

> We can only read a text once, given the number of compelling works and the limited time available to us.

You deliberately pulled it out of context, didn't you?

Re: Read to forget

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post #17

Reminds me of the purported Ralph Waldo Emerson quote which rings true for myself as well: “I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me.”

Such statements are profound and vacuous, vapid because it holds for many other areas. I cannot remember all the naughty movies I have seen even though they made me ......

> I cannot remember all the naughty movies I have seen even though they made me ......

Exactly.

Re: Read to forget

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post #7

It’s a fine perspective, but: > We can only read a text once Is clearly false. OP is expressing a choice, not a truth.

> We can only read a text once, given the number of compelling works and the limited time available to us. You deliberately pulled it out of context, didn't you?

No. I hold my reaction even with OP’s “given”. You can, in fact, read a text more than once, given the number of compelling works and the limited time available to us.

Re: Read to forget

#29
Reminds me of one of my favorite stories, from Phaedrus:

> Now the king of all Egypt at that time was the god Thamus, who lived in the great city of the upper region, which the Greeks call the Egyptian Thebes, and they call the god himself Ammon. To him came Theuth to show his inventions, saying that they ought to be imparted to the other Egyptians. But Thamus asked what use there was in each, and as Theuth enumerated their uses, expressed praise or blame, according as he approved or disapproved. The story goes that Thamus said many things to Theuth in praise or blame of the various arts, which it would take too long to repeat; but when they came to the letters, “This invention, O king,” said Theuth, “will make the Egyptians wiser and will improve their memories; for it is an elixir of memory and wisdom that I have discovered.” But Thamus replied, “Most ingenious Theuth, one man has the ability to beget arts, but the ability to judge of their usefulness or harmfulness to their users belongs to another; and now you, who are the father of letters, have been led by your affection to ascribe to them a power the opposite of that which they really possess. For this invention will produce forgetfulness in the minds of those who learn to use it, because they will not practice their memory. Their trust in writing, produced by external characters which are no part of themselves, will discourage the use of their own memory within them. You have invented an elixir not of memory, but of reminding; and you offer your pupils the appearance of wisdom, not true wisdom, for they will read many things without instruction and will therefore seem to know many things, when they are for the most part ignorant and hard to get along with, since they are not wise, but only appear wise.

https://www.antiquitatem.com/en/origin-of-writing-memory-pla...

Re: Read to forget

#30
This does not sound realistic for work in academia or technical stuff. In fact there are some techniques to read a technical paper. I never read a paper just once an move on. An abstract says a lot if a paper worths reading and after that I skim that quickly. Then I skim again more deeper a day or so later. Only after that I read it throughly and take notes.

On taking notes/highlighting I agree with the author. A general behavior I observe in colleagues or co-workers is that they highlight half of a paper, but they never do anything with that highlights. This is something I never understand. If you never use that piece of information anywhere, why bother even spending ink on it?

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