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Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

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Iryna Zaruska is why I'll keep an eye on alt media. I don't trust conventional media not to curate away content for my own good. You can mock it as FOMO, or racism, but I want to know where in the subway not to sit. This is news I can use. I can't be convinced to go back to Walter Cronkite for my daily memes.

Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

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post #15
post #4

Social media is 90% outrage farming by nation states and individuals with agendas. I think the experiment failed. Humans in large groups are so trivially manipulated by algorithms. Our ape brains at large just can't deal with a firehose of manipulation. We're just giving bad actors a key to our subconscious to destroy the fabric of our civilization, and those bad actors are using it as much as they can. This article…

I think the outcome here is we tried nothing, and now conclude nothing works. Ok, we tried privacy breaking "protect the children" nonsense. We used to have a much more of public announcement/education system for aspects of society for civil education (School House Rock), for nutrition, for public health (vaccination). All of it has since been deemed frivolous public expenditure - maybe because it worked too well and…

Fully agreed.

Letting Big Social and governments sock it out to try to make this work doesn't seem like a winning proposition.

I really cherish Bluesky / atproto in huge part because it offers some chance for organic exploration, for individuals & orgs to test and try many ways to make social media work, to defang the Advanced Persistent Threats of the info-world. Without data that wouldn't necessarily count for much, but the firehose & backfill are also quite easy to get: humanity stands some chance, isn't quite in such a dark forest with the adversary here.

Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

#24

Iryna Zaruska is why I'll keep an eye on alt media. I don't trust conventional media not to curate away content for my own good. You can mock it as FOMO, or racism, but I want to know where in the subway not to sit. This is news I can use. I can't be convinced to go back to Walter Cronkite for my daily memes.

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Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

#25

Iryna Zaruska is why I'll keep an eye on alt media. I don't trust conventional media not to curate away content for my own good. You can mock it as FOMO, or racism, but I want to know where in the subway not to sit. This is news I can use. I can't be convinced to go back to Walter Cronkite for my daily memes.

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Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

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post #9

I think it's lazy to say social media is to blame. Political murder and radical ideas have been around pretty much from the beginning of history. Is social media really more effective in radicalizing people than folklore, religion or mass propaganda? People didn't change much, only the means by which they communicate and share ideas.

I think its not so much the specific social media platforms, its the fundamental increase in how densely connected the social graph is and how much information flows across it. We don’t have the capacity to process it as individuals and our instincts lead us astray.

Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

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post #16
post #4

Social media is 90% outrage farming by nation states and individuals with agendas. I think the experiment failed. Humans in large groups are so trivially manipulated by algorithms. Our ape brains at large just can't deal with a firehose of manipulation. We're just giving bad actors a key to our subconscious to destroy the fabric of our civilization, and those bad actors are using it as much as they can. This article…

For me Twitter: anger Instagram: vanity Facebook: pride Of those, I hate anger the most so I am off twitter, even though it’s still a great place to overhear the latest in the business, geopolitics and tech zeitgeist. You literally hear about things before anyone else. But I decided that life is too short to be angry all the time. I like instagram because it’s entertaining (and am of the age where I can ignore influe…

I like your summary, but I'd add...

Instagram & TikTok: bad (or even dangerous) medical and self-help advice

Re: On Charlie Kirk and Saving Civil Society

#29
post #4

Social media is 90% outrage farming by nation states and individuals with agendas. I think the experiment failed. Humans in large groups are so trivially manipulated by algorithms. Our ape brains at large just can't deal with a firehose of manipulation. We're just giving bad actors a key to our subconscious to destroy the fabric of our civilization, and those bad actors are using it as much as they can. This article…

I agree, but we all know that political violence (or any radicalized violence) is not new. Social media, or any kind of mass communications, just makes it easier.
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