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The Job Market Is Hell

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Re: The Job Market Is Hell

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Post by mgh2 »

gsibble wrote: post #18
mgh2 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. What is your willingness to consider a candidate who does not match 100% of your requirements? 2. How willing are you to hire someone without the exact background or industry but can adapt and learn quickly due to transferable skills? 3. Do you recognize a bias for "people like you" (nepotism/cronysm, race, nationality, etc.) vs. the rest of the pool? Is this your "fit" criteria without admitting it due to legal r…

I generally look for high IQ and work ethic more than anything else. I don't even care if they don't have experience in the framework I need for example because good programmers can figure out stuff quickly. So 1: very willing 2: Very willing 3: I don't even look at stuff like that I just hire people that are skilled and capable.

Yes, you don’t need to go to school to learn programming. But maybe you are unaware of other biases: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/gonza-penovi_a-recruiter-play...

What about nontechnical roles?

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Post by klipklop »

gsibble wrote: post #10

Last time I applied out in 2023, I probably submitted 700+ applications. I've been CTO of several medium sized organizations, CEO of a startup that exited, and am a great backend coder and software architect. I got 2 interviews. One wanted me to be CTO to manage a 50 person team for $180k. I made $200k in 2014 managing a smaller team. I gave up and do consulting now. It's actually easier to find clients and I can col…

> edit: I forgot a recruiter was working with me. I asked him what was going on. He said I was "too senior", "looked expensive", and "no one wants to hire white males right now."

Out of curiosity, what chronological age do you "present" as? Ageism I suspect is a factor on top of the overt racism that is seemingly OK as long as it's against a single group.

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Post by zingababba »

OnionBlender wrote: post #20
gsibble wrote: post #12

This was on the front page 5 minutes ago and gaining traction. Now it's not even on the 2nd or 3rd page. What gives? This is an important topic.

This is why I prefer hckrnews so I can view submissions by time.

Wow thanks, didn't know about this.

Re: The Job Market Is Hell

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Post by Simulacra »

RickJWagner wrote: post #23

Wow. What was it, 4 years ago when applicants were in the drivers seat and The Great Resignation was in full swing? How the turns have tabled.

I think it's that and combined with a lot of people who had good jobs, but decided when they could work from home they just left and moved to places where they really are no jobs if it wasn't for work from home. Now they are trying to get back, but their positions have been filled.

Re: The Job Market Is Hell

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Post by Aurornis »

mgh2 wrote: post #15
gsibble wrote: post #11

I've also been on the hiring side of this. Within an hour of making a job posting on LinkedIN, I'll usually have 150+ applicants. 95%+ are unqualified and wading through the applications is a nightmare. But the fact such a high percentage are unqualified leads me to believe a big part of all of this is people are reaching for jobs they cannot actually do creating unnecessary noise.

1. What is your willingness to consider a candidate who does not match 100% of your requirements? 2. How willing are you to hire someone without the exact background or industry but can adapt and learn quickly due to transferable skills? 3. Do you recognize a bias for "people like you" (nepotism/cronysm, race, nationality, etc.) vs. the rest of the pool? Is this your "fit" criteria without admitting it due to legal r…

> 1. What is your willingness to consider a candidate who does not match 100% of your requirements?

I'm not the person you were responding to, but in my experience most of the candidates aren't even close.

You post a staff position and get dozens of college graduates.

You post a job requiring some C++ or Rust and you'll get 50 people who haven't written anything other than Ruby on Rails or Python.

I'm always open to impressive candidates who don't have exactly the right skills yet, but the majority of the spam applications can't even show that they're impressive candidates. They're just spamming the same resume to every job they see.

Re: The Job Market Is Hell

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Post by KnuthIsGod »

I hire staff in an unrelated field.

In recent decades, 100 % of my hire have been recommended by previous staff.

Whenever anyone leaves us ( generally after many years and almost invariably on friendly terms ) we ask them if they have someone they could recommend to take over their role.

We value cultural fit hugely. We have staff of multiple ethnicities ( Norwegian, Filipino, Sicilian etc ), body shapes, ages ( oldest is 70 ). We do value those who are friendly and will fit in with our team.

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