I’ve given up both.
What do you use?
I’ve given up on both and use Apple Silicon only. AMD and Intel are simply too power hungry for how slow they are and can’t optimize for power like Apple can.
I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
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Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#22I have not had any issues with Intel or AMD CPUs but I have so many issues with AMD APUs, I would steer clear of them. In my experience with different models, they have many graphics issues, broken video transcoding and overall extremely unstable. If you need decent integrated graphics then Intel is the only real option.
They make a lot of apus for gaming handhelds, I think they do well in that segment. I've had a handful of desktop and laptop apus with no complaints. Even an APU with ecc support, they've all worked without a hitch. I haven't tried transcoding anything on them mind you.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#23It's crazy how unreliable CPUs have become in the last 5 years or so, both AMD and Intel. And it seems they're all running at their limit from the factory, whereas 10-20 years ago they usually had ample headroom for overclocking.
That's good, isn't it? I don't want the factory leaving performance on the table.
Depends on your priorities. That "performance on the table" might also be called "engineering safety factor for stability".
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#24Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#25> I would say that 25 to 28 degrees celsius are normal temperatures for computers. An ideal ambient (room) temperature for running a computer is 15-25 celcius (60-77 Fahrenheit) Source: https://www.techtarget.com/searchdatacenter/definition/ambie...
coretemp-isa-0000 Adapter: ISA adapter Package id 0: +40.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 0: +38.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Core 1: +39.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C) Are they saying this is bad? This Intel CPU has been at it for over a decade. There was a fan issue for half a year and would go up to 80 C for... half a year. Still works perfectly fine but it is outdated, it lacks instructi…
That is your CPU temperature, not ambient (room) temperature.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you use?
I’ve given up on both and use Apple Silicon only. AMD and Intel are simply too power hungry for how slow they are and can’t optimize for power like Apple can.
I just replaced a headless nuc 9 with a headless M4.
Nuc 9 averaged 65-70W power usage, while the m4 is averaging 6.6W.
The Mac is vastly more performant.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#27I feel like both Intel and AMD are not doing great in the desktop CPU stability department. I made a machine with a Ryzen 9900X a while back and it had the issue that it would freeze when idling. A few years before I had a 5950X that would regularly crash under load (luckily it was a prebuilt, so it was ultimately fixed). When you do not have a bunch of components ready to swap out it is also really hard to debug the…
This does not fill me with much hope. What am I even ought to buy at this point then, I wonder. I have a ~13 years old Intel CPU which lacks AVX2 (and I need it by now) and I thought of buying a new desktop (items separately, of course), but that is crazy to me that it freezes because of the CPU going idle. It was never an issue in my case. I guess I can only hope it is not going to be a problem once I completed buil…
3 of my last 4 machines have been AMD x NVDA and I have been very happy. The intel x NVDA machine has been my least stable one.
Re: I am giving up on Intel and have bought an AMD Ryzen 9950X3D
#28This is rather late, to be quite fair.
My thoughts exactly: he figured out in 2025 what the rest of us knew in 2022.
One of my work computers died and I hadn't checked the CPU market in years. Rode home that night in a taxi with a Ryzen 1700x completely stoked that AMD was back in the game.
If anyone thinks competition isn't good for the market or that also-rans don't have enough of an effect, just take note. Intel is a cautionary tale. I do agree we would have gotten where we are faster with more viable competitors.
M4 is neat. I won't be shocked if x86 finally gives up the ghost as Intel decides playing in Risc V or ARM space is their only hope to get back into an up-cycle. AMD has wanted to do heterogeneous stuff for years. Risc V might be the way.
One thing I'm finding is that compilers are actually leaving a ton on the table for AMD chips, so I think this is an area where AMD and all of the users, from SMEs on down, can benefit tremendously from cooperatively financing the necessary software to make it happen.
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#29To make linking go quicker, use mold. Pass -fuse=mold when building.
Do beware when doing WASM with mold. I shipped a broken WASM binary that Firefox could run just fine but Chrome would not.
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#30I have not had any issues with Intel or AMD CPUs but I have so many issues with AMD APUs, I would steer clear of them. In my experience with different models, they have many graphics issues, broken video transcoding and overall extremely unstable. If you need decent integrated graphics then Intel is the only real option.
They make a lot of apus for gaming handhelds, I think they do well in that segment. I've had a handful of desktop and laptop apus with no complaints. Even an APU with ecc support, they've all worked without a hitch. I haven't tried transcoding anything on them mind you.
Yes, I have Steam Deck and it works great. But I also have 2400G and 5700G and both of those have graphics issues (tested with different recommended RAM sets).