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Oldest recorded transaction

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Re: Oldest recorded transaction

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And here's the oldest recorded customer complaint https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/complaint-tablet-to-ea...

Excellent and straightforward negotiation, reminds me a bit of how mobsters speak in film combined with how God speaks in the old testament.

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post #10
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they evolved in tandem. Back in the day, old bread would be used as a starter culture for beer. https://www.getty.edu/360/event_images/mesobeer.pdf

One can also use live-beer when making a starter dough. Neat flavours.

cool, I'll try that, muchos gracias

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While survivor bias is relevant, I strongly doubt any modern transaction stored digitally in a DB such as Postgres could last 5k years.

but they can tho??? no one said about transferring such data into another disk

The IBM 80-hole punch card will only turn 100 in 2028. Who knows what the world will look like in 2128.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

but they can tho??? no one said about transferring such data into another disk

The IBM 80-hole punch card will only turn 100 in 2028. Who knows what the world will look like in 2128.

I bet the clay tablet will be just fine. No word on moldy cards.

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post #8

This isn't just the oldest recorded transaction, it's nearly the oldest known recognizable sample of human writing. Not a love letter or a sermon or a story, but a receipt. This probably reflects their ubiquity rather than importance. There is one known older writing sample, the Kish Tablet of Jemet Nasr. Since that tablet represents lists and counts of goods (barley, oil, livestock), it may also be a receipt, or per…

That was not by (deliberate) choice.

The earliest writings were actually logographic or semasiographic, meaning they represented ideas, objects, or concepts directly rather than the sounds of a specific spoken language.

We actually don't know what language(s) was/were spoken by the people who recorded the earliest tablets (not sure if that also applies to this particular one, though).

Phonographic writing developed much later and with it came all the forms of textual recordings we're familiar with.

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post #2

beer drinking goes waaaay back

way before when the tablet was made, as residues on pottery 5 thousand years older, 8-9-10 k yrs bp show that grains were soaked and lightly fermented, to increase nutritional content, palatability/texture, with this practice bieng practiced all the way through the stone ages. some have suggested that fermentation was the primary impetus for building the first semi permanent dwellings....beer first, somewhere to hang out was a bonus

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Interesting write-up marred by the injection of politics: Maybe if I’m a British Museum manager, and I want to keep -theft- inventory details Ideological jabs like this are fine in political discussions but they don't add anything elsewhere and serve only to lower the trustworthiness of what is written due to implied bias.

It is not politics. British Museum manager did steal quite a few things. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68665773

This is not an academic piece but a blog which is trying to be light hearted.. The first sentence says "The other day I posted a tweet with this image which I thought was funny:' So not being 100% serious is to be expected.

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    I wonder how people store dates older than this. 
    
    Maybe if I’m a British Museum manager, and I want to keep theft inventory details. 
    
    How do I do it? As an epoch? Store it as text?
The answer: Text.

Many items in museums have no specific date but Circa X. I have spent a lot of time in the early 2000s to enable "Sort by date" in museum registrars software I was maintaining despite having it textual

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