Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Jeena's Hyprland Demo

tube.jeena.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 53 posts

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#21

Post by indy »

jeena wrote: post #12
cheema33 wrote: post #9

Slightly off-topic rant: Demos with apps/terminals that use translucent backgrounds befuddle me. In this demo at one point he is showing some code that is syntax highlighted. Some text is grey with background that is also grey/white. Good luck reading that! Why do people do this?

I'm demoing my own system, this is how I set it up and this is how I use it and the transparency is a integral part of the esthetic. Having said that, I guess the compression of the video makes it less sharp and contrasty as it is in real life. But all code is shared in the original with a link in the description if someone really wants to dig deeper into it.

Thank you for posting the video and making your config public.

As a recent hyprland user it's really useful being able to pick out the features I like and incorporating them into my setup.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#22

Post by jamiejquinn »

sgt wrote: post #20
neebz wrote: post #14

Looks super interesting. Has anyone here tried a keyboard-first tiling window manager on macOS? Any recommendations?

Can anyone explain why tiling managers are useful? Seems like a waste of space to me. I prefer having my various windows all over the place and just alt-tabbing between (or using other means of opening the right app). I highly prefer having the app I am working on to be in the center of the screen, so that is what makes sense for me.

If you've tried it and it doesn't fit, that seems fine, it's all just personal workflow.

For me it's pure speed at getting to where I need to go. My notes live on workspace 1, my main workspace on 2 and browser on 3, so I'm just a single key combination away from most of what I need. Can still alt+tab if I like.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#23

Post by jnsaff2 »

astr0n0mer wrote: post #19
neebz wrote: post #14

Looks super interesting. Has anyone here tried a keyboard-first tiling window manager on macOS? Any recommendations?

Check out AeroSpace ( https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace ). I've been a happy user for the last 8 months or so.

+1 for AeroSpace. I have been i3/sway user for about a decade and was really missing similar experience on Mac. All the previous ones came with gotchas or were nowhere near the usability of i3/sway.

AeroSpace is almost there, it has a few quirks and annoyances and is missing some features but it's close enough that it's now my daily driver for client work requiring being on a Mac.

Highly recommended and hopefully it continues to evolve. Also hoping that the churn in macOS is not going to kill it for some unexpected reason.

As far as Hyprland, I tried it and when I got to a setup that I felt comfortable I realized that I had basically replicated my Sway setup with no added benefits so I just switched back to Sway. I'm not much into ricing anyway. I mostly want the chrome to stay out of my way.

That said, for people unfamiliar with i3/Sway, Hyprland could be a great way of getting into tiling so I'm definitely rooting for them!

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#24

Post by boomskats »

ilvez wrote: post #13

I'm still waiting for killer demo for switching from x.org/i3 to wayland/whatever next tiling. At least there are options now in Wayland other than sway, but hyprland currently is not motivating enough when demos mostly focus on eyecandy. Transitions especially are excess. That being said I'm glad that Hyprland exists and shows people that there is power in minimalism. Fluxbox was my first love..

Give Niri a few days of your time. It's exactly what you're looking for.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#25

Post by boomskats »

chills wrote: post #15
bashtoni wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I love about Hyprland (and Sway, which I was using before it) is the ability to have a key-combination which takes me straight to where I want. Is this possible on Niri, where the virtual desktop expands infinitely?

In addition to sibling commenter, niri exposes everything over an IPC accessible via its cli (or a socket), so if you wanted, say, a keybind to switch to your terminal, no matter where it is, you could bind it to this: niri msg action focus-window --id $(niri msg --json windows | jq '.[] | select(.app_id=="foot") | .id')

Nice! I have a jq/ipc based abomination of a run-or-raise equivalent that works spectacularly well, including cycling windows in order. I keep saying I'll stick it in a repo.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#26

Post by dugmartin »

kahnclusions wrote: post #18
ilvez wrote: post #13

I'm still waiting for killer demo for switching from x.org/i3 to wayland/whatever next tiling. At least there are options now in Wayland other than sway, but hyprland currently is not motivating enough when demos mostly focus on eyecandy. Transitions especially are excess. That being said I'm glad that Hyprland exists and shows people that there is power in minimalism. Fluxbox was my first love..

If you use i3, you can switch to Sway.

And if you want a solid integrated i3/Sway desktop I'd recommend checking out Regolith (https://regolith-desktop.com/). I've been running it for years and its great.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#27

Post by gorgoiler »

ilvez wrote: post #13

I'm still waiting for killer demo for switching from x.org/i3 to wayland/whatever next tiling. At least there are options now in Wayland other than sway, but hyprland currently is not motivating enough when demos mostly focus on eyecandy. Transitions especially are excess. That being said I'm glad that Hyprland exists and shows people that there is power in minimalism. Fluxbox was my first love..

I moved from i3 to sway — an i3 clone built as a Wayland compositor — specifically to banish screen tearing from my experience.

Wayland’s architecture makes tearing inherently less likely not the least reason being that the compositor synchronizes all drawing with the display rate. X11 is much more of a free for all.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#28

Post by chrismorgan »

ilvez wrote: post #13

I'm still waiting for killer demo for switching from x.org/i3 to wayland/whatever next tiling. At least there are options now in Wayland other than sway, but hyprland currently is not motivating enough when demos mostly focus on eyecandy. Transitions especially are excess. That being said I'm glad that Hyprland exists and shows people that there is power in minimalism. Fluxbox was my first love..

I used i3 previously (2013–2016), and after a few years back on Windows (2016–2021), decided to try Sway on my current laptop (mid-2021), which happens to have a 1.5× panel.

Not everything has always been smooth, but at some point when I was needing to do screen sharing via Zoom I had to switch back to i3, and the comparison was more stark than I remembered.

On i3:

Tearing (graphical glitches) is terrible, especially if you’re doing screen sharing. I can’t use my XF86AudioMicMute key because its keycode is 256 and X only supports 8-bit codes. The touchpad doesn’t work well. Scaling stuff is a total mess, a mess that you can mostly get to work, but you’ll need to set four different environment variables and run a gsettings daemon and set these three properties and add this file to this location and that one to that and modify your Chromium flags and I probably even forgot a couple of steps.

On Wayland:

Tearing is solved. I had to modify the keymap to get XF86AudioMicMute¹, which I suspect was because of X compatibility, but then it works. The touchpad works very well, gestures, scroll rates and all. Scaling is robust and automatic, if you have an integer scaling factor or are willing to settle for render-at-next-integer-and-downsample, which is a bad technique but good enough for Apple; and compositors now support proper fractional scaling, and apps are more commonly implementing it (though I’m distressed it took so long). Firefox Nightly has just this week finally fixed the last problem that I’ve noticed, and I hope they’ll default-enable Wayland fractional scaling and Wayland soon.

The only thing I feel Sway’s behind in now is its lack of per-window screen sharing. Other than that, it’s very solidly better than i3 in every way: in convenience (things work better out of the box), in robustness (features that exist don’t have issues) and in features.

—⁂—

¹ Ran `xkbcomp $DISPLAY keymap.xkb`, then modified that file by changing `maximum = 255;` to `maximum = 256;`, and adding in appropriate places ` = 256;` and `key { [ XF86AudioMicMute ] };`. Then, in ~/.config/sway/config, `input * xkb_file "~/.config/sway/keymap.xkb"` or similar.

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#29

Post by dghf »

ilvez wrote: post #13

I'm still waiting for killer demo for switching from x.org/i3 to wayland/whatever next tiling. At least there are options now in Wayland other than sway, but hyprland currently is not motivating enough when demos mostly focus on eyecandy. Transitions especially are excess. That being said I'm glad that Hyprland exists and shows people that there is power in minimalism. Fluxbox was my first love..

For me, it was getting a laptop with a high DPI screen, and the frustrations in getting X to play nicely with that.

There were annoyances when I realised I could no longer use certain workhorses (e.g. feh), but usually a bit of digging turned up a drop-in replacement (e.g. imv).

Re: Jeena's Hyprland Demo

#30

Post by vidarh »

sgt wrote: post #20
neebz wrote: post #14

Looks super interesting. Has anyone here tried a keyboard-first tiling window manager on macOS? Any recommendations?

Can anyone explain why tiling managers are useful? Seems like a waste of space to me. I prefer having my various windows all over the place and just alt-tabbing between (or using other means of opening the right app). I highly prefer having the app I am working on to be in the center of the screen, so that is what makes sense for me.

They're useful to let you not have to think about positioning windows with precision.

If that doesn't feel useful to you, then maybe a tiling wm isn't right for you. That's entirely fine.

My wm has an "escape" in that I can define floating desktops, and by default I have one, mostly used for file management, because there are things where I agree it's better to have floating/overlapping windows.

It doesn't really matter if it's a "waste of space" - I have two large monitors, and 10 virtual desktops to spread windows between (I'd add more, but I haven't felt the need). To the point where my setup, by default, centers the window with large margins when I have just one window open on a screen because it's more comfortable (and I'm just one keypress away from fullscreening the app anyway).

Most of the time I use tiling because I like not having to care about the layout beyond those defaults.

But I can also configure specific layouts. E.g. I have desktop dedicated to my todo list, a list of done items, and notes, and it has a fixed layout that ensures those windows are always in the same placement, on the same desktop.

Post reply on HN