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Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #13

They won elections for years with a puppet candidate. Now there is no puppet candidate, and they want to block this one by using all the power of the state.

Are you saying that opposition had a puppet candidate all this time in Turkey, like you'd see in Russian elections?

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#22
The Turkish government definitely has a hand in this situation. Otherwise, I think the fact that I see almost no posts from an account that has notifications enabled and that I follow indicates a flawed algorithm. I congratulate the friend who shared this post. He touched on a very nice, detailed topic...

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#23

X's stated goal is to comply with the laws of any given country that it operates in. As the article states, there is a court order to restrict that particular users account https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1920426409358455081 . This is a nothing burger.

The fact that it's their "stated goal" does not exempt them from criticism.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #7

They have to follow the law of the country as tyrannical as it is like they did in Brazil. I hope one day they say fuck it.

But then X just gets banned in said country

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_A...

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #8

I am not an Elon or X fan, and I don’t think this is Good, but Twitter’s policy pre-X to comply with national content laws was to geo-block content when a government demanded it be blocked. I don’t recall if the algorithmic shadow-ban was in that toolkit pre-X as well, but it wouldn’t surprise me. Again, I don’t think this is a good outcome, but it’s not substantially at odds with what Twitter pre-Elon would’ve done…

This is definitely not the first time post-Elon that Twitter has continued the practice of following foreign requests. AFAIK they only pushed back on Brazil when what the government requested was particularly aggressive, not unlike when Facebook pushed back against Brazil back in the day and similarly got a daily fine for not following through.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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post #13

They won elections for years with a puppet candidate. Now there is no puppet candidate, and they want to block this one by using all the power of the state.

Are you saying that opposition had a puppet candidate all this time in Turkey, like you'd see in Russian elections?

Yes, that’s exactly what I mean.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

#29

They have to follow the law of the country as tyrannical as it is like they did in Brazil. I hope one day they say fuck it.

What other moral standard is there besides laws? Is it that the laws of non-tyrannical countries should override those of tyrannical ones? How do you decide tyrannicalness? Or should internet companies decide what should be allowed in other countries despite those countries and their populations disagreeing? Great firewalls are the solution when nobody can agree with each other across borders but that's a pity.

> Or should internet companies decide what should be allowed in other countries despite those countries and their populations disagreeing?

Internet companies (like all companies) can and indeed must choose how they behave. "We follow all laws inside each country" is one such choice, but it's not a special privileged choice that absolves the company of criticism for its behavior.

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