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America Needs Tough Grading

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Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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In short one anthem for the US ought to be: competence is back. Know how matters.

Like others report uni profs made me better. Wherever my English prof is at ... thanks a ton! Leadership, caring, and know how. You were marvelous.

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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Absolutely tone deaf article when the whole US Presidency, half of Congress and half of Senate are promoting incompetence and punishing any experience. What is the goal of "tough grading" when they, and a majority of the population, actively despise any kind of expertise?

Other people being bad isn't an excuse to not do better. Where would we get as a society if every suggestion to improve was met with "well what about those other people who are worse"?

"Well what about those other people who are worse and that we have promoted to the highest places on our society?"

Where would we get as a society, indeed.

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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Well if we post the Ten Commandments in our schools, wouldn’t that make us wiser and smarter ?

No; plus, it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States. Also, this isn't 500 BCE; we live in 2025. Humanity no longer needs to learn the basics of common decency, morality, and legality through the mythical threat of a being(s) in the sky helping or hurting an eternal life that simply does not exist after death.

>it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States.

Try to keep up with reality. It is on display right now, and there is reason to think the Supreme Court will allow it.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/02/ten-commandments-...

https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/the-ten-commandments-retu...

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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This is quite the piece. One section that stands out is: > It’s no coincidence that as grades have gone up, civic friendship between people with different views and backgrounds has gone down, both on campuses and in the nation at large. Students are so confident in their beliefs that they verbally assault professors and guest lecturers and physically assault classmates and janitorial staff. A dose of humility is need…

>> civic friendship between people with different views and backgrounds has gone down, both on campuses and in the nation at large.

Views, I don't know. Backgrounds I'd attribute to the cost of college significantly outrunning inflation.

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No; plus, it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States. Also, this isn't 500 BCE; we live in 2025. Humanity no longer needs to learn the basics of common decency, morality, and legality through the mythical threat of a being(s) in the sky helping or hurting an eternal life that simply does not exist after death.

>it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States. Try to keep up with reality. It is on display right now, and there is reason to think the Supreme Court will allow it. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/02/ten-commandments-... https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/the-ten-commandments-retu...

I know it is; doesn't mean it's legal. And until the Supreme Court rules on it, we just have to wait.

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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sigh Is it that time of the year again that we start publishing these? Boy, how time flies... Too frequently, what people (and clearly the author of this piece) mean when they say "tougher grading" is just a return to forcible bell-curve application and faculty who take out their personal insecurities and annoyance over being required to teach classes on their students. That's not making academics more challenging, i…

Terminology -- 'grading on a curve' and bell curve are two different unrelated things. A grading modification curve is not a bell curve. But the rest of your argument makes sense.

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States. Try to keep up with reality. It is on display right now, and there is reason to think the Supreme Court will allow it. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/02/ten-commandments-... https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/the-ten-commandments-retu...

I know it is; doesn't mean it's legal. And until the Supreme Court rules on it, we just have to wait.

The Supreme Court who keeps voting 5-4 or 6-3 and affirming things patently wrong like "the President is immune"? Or who keeps issuing so many shadow docket rulings devoid of reasonings?

Re: America Needs Tough Grading

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>it's illegal under state and church separation in the United States. Try to keep up with reality. It is on display right now, and there is reason to think the Supreme Court will allow it. https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/09/02/ten-commandments-... https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/the-ten-commandments-retu...

I know it is; doesn't mean it's legal. And until the Supreme Court rules on it, we just have to wait.

Here is a good article on where the Supreme Court is, now:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/aug/...

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