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A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

To put this as politely as possible, none of the normal (adult) humans I know talk like Trump.

Then you might be living in an information silo

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To suggest the right wing media ecosystem is "just talking to people on the Internet" is hilariously divorced from reality. https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential...

That just seems like an influence campaign. I expect every country to try to meddle in each other's politics, for their own gain. Also Tim Pool? Rubin? Those are small fries. Putin couldn't afford Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro?

Don't forget the Green party!

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To suggest the right wing media ecosystem is "just talking to people on the Internet" is hilariously divorced from reality. https://apnews.com/article/russian-interference-presidential...

That just seems like an influence campaign. I expect every country to try to meddle in each other's politics, for their own gain. Also Tim Pool? Rubin? Those are small fries. Putin couldn't afford Joe Rogan or Ben Shapiro?

Right... that's how influence campaigns work. They take root at low-level inputs and get laundered onto larger and more legitimate platforms.

A brief visit to Twitter will show you the hordes of bots constantly farming outrage bait, which then gets picked up by the micro-influencers, which then gets picked up (with some FSB financial assistance) by Tim Pool, Rubin, and Benny Johnson, which then gets picked up by Rogan and Shapiro, which then gets picked up by the Department of Homeland Security's official press releases and finally encoded into next week's executive order.

This is a description of a successful information op.

(Edit: The other commenter is correct that this is also happening within the BLM and BLM-adjacent movements and the green party -- all the same dynamic, but only one has found a direct route to an especially mercurial president's ear)

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

Are we forgetting fox news, rush limbaugh...?

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

Republican "wingnut welfare" has funded many household names and internet famous cranks over decades so it's misleading to suggest it's only 4 podcasters and they did it without literal billions in funding.

yeah i know, but still their ratio of influence/crank/dollar is impressive, i was mostly referencing the effectiveness of their male gen-z oriented content.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

I never understood how they think they can win anyone over by antagonising them. Especially those who are not rich and affluent enough to be okay who ever wins...

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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remind me of companies throwing money at marketing with no real product.

The purpose is the continued exposure and engagement with marketing, which becomes much less tolerable without constant familiarity and conditioning.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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Considering the shrill “DONATE NOW TO STOP TRUMP!!” emails were actually used to pay off campaign debt (after spending $1.5 billion!) I don’t think the Democrat base is primed for more shenanigans https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/25/us/politics/kamala-harris...

I worry more that they're not primed to win. The party has no standout stars; Gov. Newsom is the closest we have, and half of his promotion comes from Trump attacking him. We have the most incompetent POTUS in history in office right now; he's so stupid he makes GW Bush look like a Rhodes Scholar. And yet, with all that surface area, and Trump at all-time low popularity... nothing exciting is heard from the Dems.

Not really a secret: Conservatives are proping up Newsom so when he makes it through the primary, a wet roll of toilet paper could win against him based on "Don't California America!"

It can backfire. Democrats did it to talkshow-Trump, thinking he'd be easy to crush in the general against stateswoman-Hillary.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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post #3

at this point i'm not mad the democrats are doing propaganda i'm just offended at how shit they are at it. The republicans brainwashed half the country and overturned the constitution with 4 podcast bros and a dream and the democrats are busy trying to kick their most popular members out of the party.

Need to keep the donations from the top 1% flowing. What is needed is a repeal of Citizens United.

Plus if your income is above sat 150,000 USD you can at most donate say 10000 per year to all political candidates, PACs and anything related to influencing political activities.

Or better yet, all these donations must be fully published with the name of the people or all companies related to the company donating. No dark money at all. The published list must be in plain language and downloadable as a plain Text File.

Re: A dark money group is funding high-profile Democratic influencers

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This seems like yet another a hilariously disastrous misstep on the part of the Democrats, dark money and restricted speech and red tape. Have they considered just, you know, talking to people on the internet? The way normal humans do? The way Trump has done with such wildly incredible success?

The problem is, they don't like normal people. They don't trust them or think their opinions have value, and they've made that clear over the last several years. It took a while, but the normal people have finally started to get it. It wasn't always that way. Democrats like Bill Clinton used to be able to go out and talk to normal people and make them feel like he liked them and sympathized with them. I remember when…

I'm a Republican: I think Bernie Sanders actually cares and isn't a lizard person.
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