yesterday's news http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4500461
I was wondering if submission time had something to do with it. thanks.
Fiddler has joined the Telerik family
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#22I'm surprised by the HN response -- from what Eric says, this is the first opportunity he'll have to work on Fiddler full-time. Surely that's a good thing? Even assuming Telerik will interfere with his work "a la Yahoo", he will still be able to dedicate more time to Fiddler than he'd have had in his old job.
I'm mixed, great for him to have the opportunity, but there is still caution ala redgate. Just in case Telerik does pull a redgate, at least there are plenty of other options now for the 80%+ use case of sniffing HTTP requests, starting with what browsers provide.
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#23wow guys, why so negative? I firmly believe that Eric knows what he is doing and that telerik is going to keep the tool free and polished. And as someone said, if they make it paid an alternative will pop up in the matter of hours...
Because these things rarely work out. Either company takes it in wrong direction or developer now has money and gets itchy for something else. (yes, a major generalization I know) Have there been examples of OS project developers hooking on with a company and the project becomes better? May be helpful to be reminded of those in this situation.
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#24wow guys, why so negative? I firmly believe that Eric knows what he is doing and that telerik is going to keep the tool free and polished. And as someone said, if they make it paid an alternative will pop up in the matter of hours...
It isn't up to Eric anymore. I wish him well, personally, but the product's fate is in the hands of Telerik.
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#25Charles web debugging proxy is a similar tool, that works on OS X and Linux additionally:
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#26Charles web debugging proxy is a similar tool, that works on OS X and Linux additionally: http://www.charlesproxy.com/
It also costs money , which is what people seem to be worried about with fiddler.
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#27Well that's gone to hell then. I've dealt with Telerik lots over the years and have nothing pleasant to say about the experience.
Can you elaborate? All I know about Telerik is that they do a lot to sponsor community podcasts and user groups.
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#28Well that's gone to hell then. I've dealt with Telerik lots over the years and have nothing pleasant to say about the experience.
Can you elaborate? All I know about Telerik is that they do a lot to sponsor community podcasts and user groups.
Well RadControls as a fine example: bloated, unreliable, impossible to work with, buggy, slow, expensive.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate? All I know about Telerik is that they do a lot to sponsor community podcasts and user groups.
Well RadControls as a fine example: bloated, unreliable, impossible to work with, buggy, slow, expensive.
The above may all be true, but I'm sure you'd say the same about any of the "enterprise" suites of web controls. Speaking from experience with Infragistics, I'd say the exact same things. Perhaps it's the price to pay for trying to make the "be all and end all" of control suites.
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#30Charles web debugging proxy is a similar tool, that works on OS X and Linux additionally: http://www.charlesproxy.com/
It also costs money , which is what people seem to be worried about with fiddler.
I see.
I was wondering what the complaints re: Reflector/RedGate were, I am a big fan of their SQL Server tools, but they do cost money.