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Re: ASCIIFlow

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Post by leohart »

stronglikedan wrote: post #23
leohart wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think monodraw is way better and at a one time price of $10, it's really is a fantastic piece of software.

too bad it's only for a not fantastic piece of OS

While True, I believe the reason Monodraw doesn't expand is because the ASCII / TUI tooling economy is not rewarding. There are few users and even fewer customers who are willing to pay for ASCII/TUI tools.

If you look at tooling companies annual revenue

- Atlassian: 1.4B - Jetbrains: 400M - Vercel: 100M - Supabase: 16M - Prisma: 10M (maybe?)

We dive into the long tail quickly. I would be very surprised if Monodraw make more than 1M a year. At that revenue, it's going to be hard to expand into a multi-platform / web strategy (especially if your existing product is platform-locked).

Re: ASCIIFlow

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Post by craftkiller »

numpad0 wrote: post #8
staplung wrote: post #2

Cool. One thing I found odd was that on export there are two listed formats. "ASCII" and "ASCII extended" but as far as I can tell, the ASCII version is actually outputting UTF-8. It's hard to tell for sure though because the output is just text that you can cut and paste and so it's difficult to know what conversions the browser or OS might be doing behind the scenes. But when I paste it into a text editor on my mac…

20 20 78 78 78 ... Looks ASCII to me, Firefox on Windows. Could be OS.

Firefox on Linux: I just copied and pasted into emacs and did a M-x describe-char and got 0xE29480 which is definitely not ASCII: https://www.compart.com/en/unicode/U+2500

Also confirmed with hexl-mode (hex editor in emacs)

Re: ASCIIFlow

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Post by 16bytes »

numpad0 wrote: post #8
staplung wrote: post #2

Cool. One thing I found odd was that on export there are two listed formats. "ASCII" and "ASCII extended" but as far as I can tell, the ASCII version is actually outputting UTF-8. It's hard to tell for sure though because the output is just text that you can cut and paste and so it's difficult to know what conversions the browser or OS might be doing behind the scenes. But when I paste it into a text editor on my mac…

20 20 78 78 78 ... Looks ASCII to me, Firefox on Windows. Could be OS.

" xxx"? That's the same in ASCII and UTF-8.

OP is asking what are the line-drawing characters encoded as e.g: "┌" and "┐".

Since the charset returned by the app is UTF-8, these will be interpreted and encoded as UTF-8 and not whatever "ASCII - Extended" means.

Re: ASCIIFlow

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Post by fmajid »

johnisgood wrote: post #17

There are lots of similar projects to this that made top HN the past week. Is there a list of it? I was not logged in and I lost history but the previous one I just saw earlier today was quite nice, too! Edit: Oh apparently it was "Monodraw". There was yet another one besides that. I am all up for such tools. What was the name of the one that allowed you to specify the diagrams using some custom DSL which in turn wou…

MermaidJS, Graphviz or PlantUML, perhaps?

Re: ASCIIFlow

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Post by dragonwriter »

johnisgood wrote: post #17

There are lots of similar projects to this that made top HN the past week. Is there a list of it? I was not logged in and I lost history but the previous one I just saw earlier today was quite nice, too! Edit: Oh apparently it was "Monodraw". There was yet another one besides that. I am all up for such tools. What was the name of the one that allowed you to specify the diagrams using some custom DSL which in turn wou…

> What was the name of the one that allowed you to specify the diagrams using some custom DSL which in turn would generate the diagrams themselves?

I think the recent one on HN that meets that description was D2 (https://d2lang.com/), though that description fits a lot of tools.

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