My deep suspicion, given some of the players involved in DOGE, is that most of this information is being exfiltrated for the purposes of training AI models. They'll likely be used for social and political manipulation of groups and possibly even individuals. There's a big market for "pre-crime" solutions which will also rely heavily on this type of data and are already being deployed by various state-level law enforc…
Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers
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#23Perhaps it is time that the US stops relying on SSNs being “secret”…
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Hard to make a lot of money when the government provides good services for free.
Hard to have effectively indentured servitude if there’s a social safety net. Remember even Hayek advocated for universal, government funded healthcare! Ayn Rand was on social security!
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#25Perhaps it is time that the US stops relying on SSNs being “secret”…
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#27My deep suspicion, given some of the players involved in DOGE, is that most of this information is being exfiltrated for the purposes of training AI models. They'll likely be used for social and political manipulation of groups and possibly even individuals. There's a big market for "pre-crime" solutions which will also rely heavily on this type of data and are already being deployed by various state-level law enforc…
This is a realistic concern. I can't understand why peopleare downvoting it.
First is Hanlon’s Razor; “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. It appears to be especially applicable here.
Second is that this kind of information (with far richer data) is already accessible to and used by corporations at scale; think credit bureaus, background checkers, etc.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hard to make a lot of money when the government provides good services for free.
Hard to have effectively indentured servitude if there’s a social safety net. Remember even Hayek advocated for universal, government funded healthcare! Ayn Rand was on social security!
I don't think it's actually intended to be helpful and probably needs to go away.
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#29Copied from one secure S3 bucket to another secure S3 bucket, both inaccessible from the internet, both on SSA infrastructure. What exactly is the problem?
> However, according to the complaint, the copied data had far fewer security measures in place to protect it than the SSA's standard protocols typically require. > According to Andrea Meza, an attorney with the Government Accountability Project who represents Borges, the cloud environment appeared to be set up for DOGE-affiliated Social Security staffers, but it "lacks independent security, monitoring and oversight.…
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All previous administrations have failed too, in that they didn't tighten up the loopholes. Probably because they feared they could be used against them.