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Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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My deep suspicion, given some of the players involved in DOGE, is that most of this information is being exfiltrated for the purposes of training AI models. They'll likely be used for social and political manipulation of groups and possibly even individuals. There's a big market for "pre-crime" solutions which will also rely heavily on this type of data and are already being deployed by various state-level law enforc…

This is a realistic concern. I can't understand why peopleare downvoting it.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #10

Copied from one secure S3 bucket to another secure S3 bucket, both inaccessible from the internet, both on SSA infrastructure. What exactly is the problem?

Wrong political party involved in doing it?

Surely this is ragebait.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #3

Perhaps it is time that the US stops relying on SSNs being “secret”…

Doesn't change the fact that DOGE are criminal scumbags with root access who did illegal things nobody should ever do. It doesn't matter at all if SSNs were replaced by something decent when young naive and impressionable scumbags with root access and no morals whatsoever will simply steal the data anyway. Quite the contrary even, secure SSN as data loot is even more valuable to the thieves.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to make a lot of money when the government provides good services for free.

Hard to have effectively indentured servitude if there’s a social safety net. Remember even Hayek advocated for universal, government funded healthcare! Ayn Rand was on social security!

Ayn Rand was a hypocrite and thus an idiot.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #21
post #5

My deep suspicion, given some of the players involved in DOGE, is that most of this information is being exfiltrated for the purposes of training AI models. They'll likely be used for social and political manipulation of groups and possibly even individuals. There's a big market for "pre-crime" solutions which will also rely heavily on this type of data and are already being deployed by various state-level law enforc…

This is a realistic concern. I can't understand why peopleare downvoting it.

There are at least two reasons:

First is Hanlon’s Razor; “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity”. It appears to be especially applicable here.

Second is that this kind of information (with far richer data) is already accessible to and used by corporations at scale; think credit bureaus, background checkers, etc.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to make a lot of money when the government provides good services for free.

Hard to have effectively indentured servitude if there’s a social safety net. Remember even Hayek advocated for universal, government funded healthcare! Ayn Rand was on social security!

You know last time I was laid off, and this time too actually, I haven't figured out where these social safety nets are. I could have really used it last time too, that was a significant struggle.

I don't think it's actually intended to be helpful and probably needs to go away.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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post #16
post #10

Copied from one secure S3 bucket to another secure S3 bucket, both inaccessible from the internet, both on SSA infrastructure. What exactly is the problem?

> However, according to the complaint, the copied data had far fewer security measures in place to protect it than the SSA's standard protocols typically require. > According to Andrea Meza, an attorney with the Government Accountability Project who represents Borges, the cloud environment appeared to be set up for DOGE-affiliated Social Security staffers, but it "lacks independent security, monitoring and oversight.…

It may be secure enough for being on S3, but that's not the whole definition of secure for government / SSNs, where there's (presumably) sheaves of paperwork explaining what exactly the storage needs to conform to and, more importantly, what paperwork and procedures need to be in place.

Re: Whistleblower says DOGE officials copied Social Security numbers

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The US top government is anarchy right now, descending into totalitarianism. Silver lining, this shit has highlighted how fragile the US democracy is and how easily the checks and balances fail if they're being ignored and there's no consequences for ignoring them. In a functioning democracy, none of this would have happened and the people that tried it removed from office and jailed.

All previous administrations have failed too, in that they didn't tighten up the loopholes. Probably because they feared they could be used against them.

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