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Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
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Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, so we're on the same page as to what we're referring to, but, to be clear, that 50% claim is incorrect[1], it's much lower than that. Who is claiming that more than 50% of people are "less happy than average"? That's not a disorder. I'm fairly certain that the DSM doesn't make a claim like that, does the APA? It feels straw-manish. I know that it's hard to diagnose these more intangible issues, but they are still…
I tried to correct myself above, and included the source this time. The actual statistic I was misremembering says that 50.8% of people will meet the requirements for an Axis 1 or higher diagnoses before the age of 75. You're right that it's important to be accurate. Mea Culpa. To the actual point of my wildly incorrect claim: If most people are judged to be mentally ill at some point in their life, and most of the d…
Most mental health diagnoses are transient. If half of people at some point experience diagnosable mental illness in their lives, that doesn't seem all that outlandish to me. Most of us will, at some point, have some kind of non-psychiatric illness, too.
Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
The DSM-5 is from the "American Psychiatric Association". Phillip Zimbardo, and the link you linked to, are the "American Psychological Association". These are two different associations. Theresa Miskimen is the president of the American Psychiatric Association, not Zimbardo.
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Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
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Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
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Calling a comment "ridiculous" is against the guidelines?
Okay. Hopefully it isn't against the guidelines to say I think that's a silly guideline. Apparently saying "ridiculous" in response to a comment is very selectively enforced, must be my lucky day.
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Time to randomize the password. Cheers.
Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
so ... apa ...the apa that writes the dsm-5, psychiatric disorders, the medical group, is the american PSYCHIATRIC assn. the psychologists, they never went to medical school, so despite forming an organization and many publications, have little to do with diagnostic standards for medical doctors. for clarity: THERE ARE TWO APA, the one written about in the article is not the same as the one in this comment.
There's also the American Philosophical Association.
There used to be an American Philological Association, but they decided to change their name to the "Society for Classical Studies," because most people don't know the word "philology."
Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#27Sometime in the early 2000's we passed a point where more than 50% of the population had an AXIS 2 or higher chemical disorder[1]. It was around this point that I became skeptical of the DSM. If the majority of people are crazy, it's likely that our definition of "crazy" needs work. That said, the situation isn't as dire as some folks with a vested interest would have you believe... If you're reading this and you're…
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Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, so we're on the same page as to what we're referring to, but, to be clear, that 50% claim is incorrect[1], it's much lower than that. Who is claiming that more than 50% of people are "less happy than average"? That's not a disorder. I'm fairly certain that the DSM doesn't make a claim like that, does the APA? It feels straw-manish. I know that it's hard to diagnose these more intangible issues, but they are still…
I tried to correct myself above, and included the source this time. The actual statistic I was misremembering says that 50.8% of people will meet the requirements for an Axis 1 or higher diagnoses before the age of 75. You're right that it's important to be accurate. Mea Culpa. To the actual point of my wildly incorrect claim: If most people are judged to be mentally ill at some point in their life, and most of the d…
I don't think that it's incorrect at all to say that half of us will at some or multiple points in time suffer from some disorder, in fact I find it comforting to recognize that we will all go through this at some point.
We all go through rough patches that can make our mental health slip, just like we go through rough patches where our physical health slips. What's important is that we recognize when something is wrong and get the help we need.
Just like my first point, it's normal to be older and have high blood pressure, but if that's the case, you should probably be taking medication.
Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
#29I wonder how much of the DSM is based on loose correlations, non-replicated or fraudulent research. I get the feeling that we understand how our brains work about as well as we understand how well mitochondria work - - and I see reports of new findings on mitochondria fairly regularly...
The DSM isn't about understanding how the brain works, it's about correlating sets of symptoms to treatments. If your issues are characterized by this broad set of symptoms, then likely you'll benefit from these sorts of treatments, and etc. We don't have a good understanding of how the brain works, but we're pretty confident that people with schizophrenia often benefit from antipsychotic medications.
Re: Undisclosed financial conflicts of interest in DSM-5 (2024)
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Huh? And what is nationalistic flame bait about it? Speaking as someone living it.
There is a reason why depression, anxiety, and a host of other issues have escalated for decades, and nationalism has nothing to do with it.